Exception???? log book entry

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by harleyg, May 22, 2009.

  1. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    No the way we did it/do it is stick the cherry picker out on the edge of the road. Nice birds eye view. I have hit trucks at close to 9500 feet away. Nothing to hit a car a 4000 plus feet. No angle to speak of. No more than sitting in the cruiser on the side. Working the routes to the beach was one of my favorite assignments. Couldn't stop idiots fast enough running 30 plus. Everyday guarenteed to get a few at 100 mph+. Yesterday got a 65 year old man in a pickup at 92 mph in a 55 mph zone. Fella tried to run on me and jump off at the next exit and try to avoid me and then drove back up on the on ramp to continue on the interstate. Couldn't believe it wasn't a young punk, but instead a older CDL holder.
     
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  3. Red Fox

    Red Fox Road Train Member

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    Cherry Pickers: I have no problem with guys doing 15+ getting popped, but I would have assumed that the 500 yd. rule was meant for visibility of the public, not the cop. Therefore, a cherry picker wouldn't be visible as a cop unless it had a lightbar and a big STAR on the side of the bucket, would it? Perhaps it's the inverse: the cop is supposed to be able to see 500 yds. I'll see what I can find out; I work out with a cop now and then.
     
  4. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    When I would be driving down the interstate I was easily detected with the U.S. Government license plate on the front and back. The old hand held brain frying cancer unit was usually within reach. The old timers who knew that a U.S. Government plate with G-12 was USDOT would box me in for fun when going down the road. Then for fun I'd warm up the unit, and pull the trigger (as a haz mat we had them for checking the speed of railroad trains). You should have seen all the brake lights!!!!! This was before bird dogs were illegal. Ah, the good old days! After 9/11 everything changed.
     
  5. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    How about this, for a responce.

    Having heard the numerous violations issued for "Duty Status Not Current" Driver made an honest mistake, by taking it to line 1. Trying to comply with his perception of the law. "Log all changes of duty status", and meaning to come down to "on duty" for the traffic stop.

    I know thats not an arguement. But it is possible that type of mistake could be made by someone who was new. Personally, if I get pulled over. I ain't touching that log book. Until I'm instructed to do so.

    BTW....special thanks to Lousianna DOT for being on the ball this morning.

    Nothing like getting pulled in twice for a quick check of ALL my paperwork within 44 miles (I-55 SB and I-12 WB), under a JIT load that was hotter than a fire cracker when I got it :biggrin_2552:
     
  6. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Dance,

    I do not get worked up over a guy on line one a few hours back when I stop him. I ask "when did you leave?" The driver tells me and then I tell him to bring it to current. I really don't see this that often. This week for example, I saw some pretty jacked up books. 4, 5, 6 days behind. Yes, I saw a few good books that showed current. A lot of produce running north right now, so I know guys are cooking their books after they drop and can make it look good as long as they don't get stopped on their way.
     
  7. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    I think you misunderstood me LOL. Or maybe I wasn't clear enough. No biggy...I can help there.

    When I said the time was current. I meant that the stop had occured at 9:45 and he had drawn the line up at 9:45...while the officer was walking to the cab. IE He had brought it current to the actual stop.

    But it equates to the same thing.
     
  8. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Gotcha now. You can usually tell when the guy is catching it up as you stop them. The driver will run the shoulder for 1/2 mile swerving all over the place. The log entry is not a straight line as the driver usually has it on the wheel in front of him trying to draw his line. Looking like this!
    /|\/\|\|\\\\|||\\\ When they do this, you are almost guarenteed
    to find a false log book, because they are in a hurry. Guys, I know most of you that are on this site do it the right way. It takes less than 5 minutes to fill your book out before you take off. Sit it down beside you, on the dash, wherever you like. When you stop, draw your line. When you get ready to start again draw your line. I say it all the time, take 5 minutes to do it right, it will save you 10 hours out of service. And you will never falsify your log book. I see so many driver's that do it the way my father and uncle logged 25 years ago. Take your mileage, average 63-64 mph and then fill in the book. Problem is when it is checked roadside or in a audit, log won't match receipts, thus being a false log.
     
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  9. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    LMAO...some guys. Thanks for clarifying that. It was good for a laugh.

    Our safety sup gives out a ruler during orientation. And politely explains he's not being a nice guy. He expects straight/neat lines. With neat hand writing. And he won't be repeating himself in the future.
     
  10. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    If up dating your log may keep you from being put out of service, provided you have hours remaining. But the ticket for not being current is up to the cop. Why would anyone enter a scale without catching up the book. I can understand maybe if you were pulled over going down the road, But the scale, if you caught there your asking for problems.
     
  11. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Powder,

    I work in a scale and I also patrol, mostly patrol and go into the scale here and there when I don't feel like riding. You would be surprised, I know I was, that guys roll into the scale with their book a day, two days, 3 days, a week behind. I understand and expect it almost when I stopping at roadside to catch a few this way but to roll into a scale that far behind. That's just asking to be placed out of service. To clarify if you are missing today( 6/2), yesterday (6/1) and any portion of the day before (5/31) that's when you would be placed OOS. Seems to me, take 5 minutes and fill it out would be a better alternative.
     
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