Got pulled over in michigan today,truck registered 2000,vin sticker says built date 05/99.state tropper says i have to use an eld and that my truck is not exempt.the engine is a 2ws cat and from my understanding cat stopped making them 1999,couldnt find a sticker on the engine.
Is my truck exempt and how can i prove it?
Exempt or not exempt?
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by zinita17601, Nov 6, 2018.
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Gotta have a sticker on the engine, or paperwork with engine model year. Some of those troopers simply don't know the regulations
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Directly from Electronic Logging Device Exemptions
Q4. If the vehicle registration for a commercial motor vehicle reflect a model year of 2000 or newer, but the engine plate or documentation from the manufacturer indicates that the engine is older than model year 2000, is the vehicle exempt from the ELD rule?
A4. Yes. While an ELD may voluntarily be used in vehicles that are model year 1999 or older, use of an ELD is not required in these vehicles; likewise, vehicles with engines predating model year 2000 are to be treated as exempt, even if the VIN number reported on the registration indicates that the CMV is a later model year. When a vehicle is registered, the model year should follow the criteria established by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). There may be instances where the model year reflected on the vehicle registration is not the same as the engine model year, most commonly when a vehicle is rebuilt using a “glider kit.” In this circumstance, an inspector/investigator should use the model year on the engine to determine if the driver is exempt from the ELD requirements. If the engine model year is older than 2000, the driver is not subject to the ELD rule. While the driver is not required to possess documentation that confirms the vehicle engine model year, 49 CFR Part 379 Appendix A requires motor carriers to maintain all documentation on motor and engine changes at the principle place of business. If a determination cannot be made at the roadside, safety official should refer the case for further investigation.KB3MMX Thanks this. -
Even my late 11/99 built engine still has 1999 model year sticker on it -
As for the trooper (not broker) stated he needed an ELD. Likely he was speaking out his backside simply guessing based in truck registration. Which is why the op needs to find out what that model year is, and keep proof. And fight any citation or even a CVSA violation (written warning) if it is in fact a 99 model year. -
No guessing it’s exempt. All 2ws cats are 99 or older. Some of the of the next prefix (6NZ) are even 99. Go to Cat or a dealer and get a new engine sticker.
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Wait? The trooper thinks the manufacturer has a time machine that would allow them to go into the future to bring back engines from 2000 to assemble the truck in may of 1999.
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Thaught the same thing but than he could argue that the engine is not the original one which came out of the factory.
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