Explain like I'm five the 10 hour break rule in the sleeper?

I seldom log 10 hours straight as sleeper status.
It will be a couple off duty, then sleeper, then some off duty before I go on duty for the pre-trip.
Sleeper status might only be 6 hours.

Never been a problem after 7 years.

 

I had D.O.T ask me how I was in sleeper for 34 hours break. It was legal but the D.O.T guy was just looking for a reason. The guy was going to put me out of sevice. He ask me if ever went to bathroom. I said I just used a bottle ha ha. That's how messed up some D.O.T inspectors are. So today I just log everything as I do it. Plus today we use credit cards to pay everything. So their is a record of that. I would not log 10 hour in sleeper unless you really in you truck for 10 hours.

 

I retired in 2012. Throughout my career I always used paper logs. With the exception of hometime, time in a terminal or staying overnight in a hotel I always logged my breaks on line 2. I have had DOT officers from California to New York inspect me and look over my log book. Not once was I asked about my status while off duty. NOT ONCE! Your OFF DUTY for crying out loud. The FMCSA does not give a dang how or where you spend that 10 or what line you use. They only care that you take at least a 10 hour break. I also logged sleeper when loading/unloading when I was not on line 4. Im serious about this point. There is no rule that mandates you must use line 1 when outside the sleeper. There are people in these forums that are attempting to say there is. There is not. I can only guess that the FMCSA is writing some regulations in invisible ink and only a select few can see it. Or somebody seriously needs some time off.

 

And if you do use your card to pay for something make sure you are logged off duty, and not sleeper.
That may be a reason to keep a little cash on hand?

 

Come on people. Use your heads. There is no way an enforcement officer has access to your card activity on the side of the road. Yes if you have messed up bad and now have both the cops AND an attorney after you yes. But NOT for general enforcement.

 

The good old days "What date would you like on your fuel receipt sir?" tomorrow, I'm not here yet !!

Life was so much simpler before computers.

 

Just so long as when the officer says "Can I see your logbook?" You don't accidentally ask him, "Which one?"

 

You are working and worrying too hard. You will die a bitter worn out mental case by 40.

You are in the sleeper fine you are resting, sleeping in it until the new workday begins. So you have to go take care of nature calling, go take care of it. Leave the log alone.

The day the government needs to know i go nature calling during my sleep time is the day I consider leaving this land of surveillance.

I think the problem cause is within the staff who lectured or taught you and emphasized not to do anything at all without logging it.

//teasing... no wonder you feel dumb. It's hard to have a mind and a life to call your own in a situation like that.

Think it over. We are a nation of law breakers. Im pretty sure there are a thousand some odd laws I broke today somewhere while actually alive and doing housework or something. (Imagine the hazmat laws in the kitchen...///sarcasm)

Get your rest. Take care of what you gotta take care of doing that time. Just go. Gwan.

Sheesh.

I hate to be difficult. In my time we used bottles and did not stop at all to even sleep a hour sometimes.

 

Just log on sleeper soon as your at your destination .
Than bounce back and forth to off duty personal conveyance for 4 hours while you get unloaded.
Than take the remaining 4 hours back to sleeperberth.

 

If a driver is logged in to the 'Sleeperberth Line', is he/she required to log on to the 'on duty' line if engaging in an act of...self gratification?
Perhaps it would be most prudent to ask your company safety department.
DOT tends to frown on the public taking matters into their own hands.