Fading turbocharger boost

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Lepton1, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    When the system leaks, you can create a number of problems. you will have fuel problems for sure. with newer electronics and sensors everywhere it will take longer, but the damage is happening. Most of the damage is from over heating components. sustained high EGTs burn out the manifold, and overheat the turbo. Soon these components will fail. They are just not designed for that type of use.
    Over or under fueling is the primary problem.
    When an engine runs lean, it will tend to over heat more than a rich fuel mix. Rich mixes dump fuel into the exhaust stream that then burn and generate heat. Enough fuel and the turbo can actually become an engin of its own.
     
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    My 91 started reading 20 instead of the 36 it used to have. I was empty but it still felt it's normal Ferrari self. So I tapped on the boost gauge while on the throttle and it came up to normal.
     
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  4. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    No, the problems began when he didn't detect the leaking CAC soon enough. That created overheating in the turbo and exhaust manifold, cracked cylinder heads, etc. He went through quite a laundry list of repairs, including an in frame about a year ago.
     
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  5. m16ty

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    Low boost can be created by a mirid of things, most of which have nothing to do with the turbo.

    Air intake restriction, clogged fuel filters, bad injectors, just to name a few.
     
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  6. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Just finished a bobtail test drive in my brother's truck. In addition to basically replacing the suspension system and putting in a new steering box, he also ran the rack and the shop magician found and replaced a section of muffler that had a hole in it (in a location that was almost impossible to see). Picked up 6 psi in boost, from 18 to 24 psi. Can't wait to get it under load on a team run and see how mpg is impacted.

    As for my truck, the magician already went over the CAC and ran the rack, replacing both camshafts, rollers, and Jake assembly. I just don't know what psi is normal on a Cummins ISX.
     
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    Generally 28-38psi just depends on what file is in the ecm and a few other things.
     
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    Yeah, there's a LOT for me to learn about this truck and drive train. The boost is something to keep an eye on, but I have other priorities to address, step by step as cash flow allows.
     
  9. m16ty

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    To add to my above post, while the turbo does make the boost, it needs fuel to do it. Low boost pressures very often indicate a fuel problem.

    Turbos don't normally get weaker over time. They either work or they don't and when they don't you'll know it.

    Every so often I'll pull the turbo intake hose and have a look. You don't want to see a bunch of oil ( a little dampness is ok), you want to make sure it spins free and make sure it doesn't have enough slop for the fins to contact the housing ( even brand new turbos will have a little side to side play).
     
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    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    How many miles on it when you did all this?
     
  11. TallJoe

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    I once had a horrible leak in the charge air cooler and did not feel any performance change, but I did not have the boost gauge either at the time. The notable change, however, was a significant drop in fuel mileage. It was consistent and below 5mpg. That's what made me discover the air leak.
     
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