FAIR opinion for OWNER OPERATORS ONLY

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Mara, Oct 1, 2014.

  1. Mara

    Mara Light Load Member

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    I agree with you about the feelings part. When it comes to dealing with these brokers I am a bad ### but I just felt bad for the guy. Not anymore. He went downhill and fast. I am staying calm & very professional with him. I saved every text message and voicemail from the guy. he is just being ridiculous.

    This is his first time being an O/O, was always a company guy, maybe that's why. Too many choices & decisions to be made. Some people just can't handle that I guess.

    Let me tell you, I didn't open this business for the money, I did it because I love it. I think what you all do is amazing and you are some of the best people ever out there on the open roadsm always looking out for each other and eager to help one another out. It's more of a community. That is why I do it. :)
     
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  3. KenworthGuyNH

    KenworthGuyNH Road Train Member

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    Well let's face.............we need money to live!! LOL..............but you are on the right track.......if you love what you do AND are good at it; the money part will follow. If you hate what you are doing; no matter how lucrative.....the money end will always be a struggle.
     
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  4. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    Good luck getting trailer back. If he destroys it could he be charged with destruction of property??? I'd look into that.
     
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  5. Jerry12

    Jerry12 Heavy Load Member

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    When firing an employee, here's an alternative: Ques: what was the actual monetary damage incurred? it sounds like no money was actually lost.

    Alternative to firing: suspend the O/O from working that specific account. & Counsel the O/O, identify why the driver lost focus on why he is there...for profit.

    The Carrier loses out when they fire an employee or O/O...they both bring in nice revenue. Termination should be a last resort measure when the individual begins to increase your operational costs.

    Suspension is a useful tool, where you can apply it to a specific account or period of time. This tool will allow you also to save face with the broker, by reassuring the broker that you are focused to their needs by eliminating a problem.
     
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  6. exhausted379

    exhausted379 Road Train Member

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    I disagree. Hang a suspension. Sounds way too politically correct for me. She fired him and was in the right in doing so. If she suspends him from this account, what happens at the next shipper? Some people just aren't cut out to be o/o and this guy is one of them.
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  7. Jerry12

    Jerry12 Heavy Load Member

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    Termination is always there & doesnt require any extra work. To earn money requires work & to correct a persons behaviour is work. Im just saying, maybe there is another approach when earning a dollar.
     
  8. Mara

    Mara Light Load Member

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    I see your point, Jerry. I fired him the first time. When my husband re-hired him he spoke with him for over an hour and reminded him why he is here and how trucking works since he was never an Owner Operator before. He was a company driver for 14 years, everything I told him is information & knowledge that he should already know. He wasn't dispatched a load for 4 days...his choice. Called back and said I need to gross $5500 this week, let's make it happen. He was on his way to achieve his weekly gross and then he accepts a great paying load and leaves the pickup.

    I had no choice. Now my trailer is being held hostage until I pay his gas out for the last 2 weeks for his request. Since when do company's pay Owner Operators fuel? I missed the bulletin, apparently.. :)
     
  9. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Suspension is a useful tool:biggrin_25512: Glorified TIME OUT does not work on someone who proved he will keep doing the same trick as this guy pulled TWICE
     
  10. Jerry12

    Jerry12 Heavy Load Member

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    Here's a section in the regulations, when going forward will assist you in issuing a payment to a Lease Operator: read sections E-thru-H http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/376.12


    This rule, sec.f when working with a difficult person: "...upon termination of the lease agreement, as a condition precedent to payment, the lessor shall remove all identification devices of the authorized carrier...and return them to the Carrier..."
     
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  11. Passin Thru

    Passin Thru Road Train Member

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    You have all his tractor stuff, lisc and make, serial numbers. Call the FBI and tell them it's been stolen and where you think he is. Call the DOT in IN and have them put out a BOL for the trailer. You could get him back in and then call a Sheriff and have him unhook the trailer in front of him then send him on his way. Don't let people threaten you. I fired a guy for disappearing for 2 days at a time and sold his ride from under his butt. Go to his home address and repo the trailer or have a wrecking co do it. Track his computer and have the police track his cell phone and haave them retrieve the trailer. It is a stolen trailer.
     
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