Your csa will be hit , your safety dept will frown ( they get hit too) .....running hard is not always the answer , your company will love you & tell you what a great driver you are but remember pleasing the company can be kindve like feeding the bears , .....it's your cdl and doesn't belong to anyone else , if you or anyone else makes a mistake on the highway while running hard & they find out you were ummmmm out of hrs or your story book doesn't sit well with the trooper .....YOU WILL NO LONGER HAVE A CDL FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE ! ....it can be worse than this IF you happen to involed with a fatal accident & KILL someone ,you will serve time in PRISON ,it doesn't have to be your own fault & the bears you were feeding will hardly know your name ,it's your choice tho ,your cdl ,your $ .....oh and one more thing , run the way you think is right , once you start feeding the bears ,don't run out of food for them nothing wrong with bein a hard worker but how much does that dollar in the window cost? this question is answered by fate , these trucks are not called " death machines " for no reason , those fuel tanks you are sitting on can be an instant inferno in seconds , let me say this again IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOUR FAULT AT ALL IN THE ACCIDENT !!!....it's your cdl , the chance you take should always be your OWN decision .......you have the law on your side if you do what is right , I'm not a goodie two shoes myself but I'm also not cool neither like some guys are on the highway, i have a crystal clear driving record & im here for my family & i don't put up with any office boys con games ,i take my job very serious & my company knows it ,make a decent living ....firm but kind !!!!
back in the 60s and 70s you might get fired if you didnt know how to cheat on your log book. back in the 70s when i owned a small fleet would not hire a driver if he told me only run legal logs. i dont know why drivers make such a big deal about logs, they have been around since the 30s,and not one person i know have died because of cheating in his log book. if you are running E-logs you are at a disadvantage but what will your company really do if they catch you. tell you bad dog no biscuit and dont do it again,yeah right. sometimes i would cheat in my log book when i didnt even have to made me feel better about myself. be safe out there
Hi j, I hear ya'. For the life of me, I can't believe paper logs are still acceptable. ( now you log this just how it happened. Oh, don't worry, I will) I would have fit right in at your company. I learned early on, they don't call them "comic books" for nothing. I'd even carry 2 log books and always get a hand written receipt for fuel and never say I took a tollway. I feel bad for the OP, as it was just a mistake on their part and heaven knows, I made plenty myself. Any day now, I expect a ruling from the "man" (or woman) banning paper logs.
Seen that a few times with a local company. A couple drivers would leave out on Sunday night making deliveries up the east coast, and then sit in the drivers lounge for 3 hours or so on Thursday or Friday filling out log books so they could turn in their trip tickets. I never could understand that, and I never bothered to ask.
What have we learned from this mistake? Never ever give them a fuel receipt or toll receipt . If they ask for it tell them you lost it or cant find it or don't even have one better yet you sent it in to the company already. Always but always have your log book up to date if your going to fudge lines then take the time to fudge them correctly. To many times I see drivers getting caught because "they thought the scale house would be closed" Doesn't take 5 minutes to make one legal besides more and more they are pulling trucks over on the highway spot checking. If you hand an officer a log book that looks neat and well kept usually they will not question it. Remember you have been logging everyday for the life of your job most officers could not log 2 days if they had to. On another note I do not condone cheating on logs at all bad for the business and I would never do anything like that .........In the future take your time and ask yourself does it LOOK 100% legal .
In a fatality crash.....YOUR logs will not hold up if you falsify them if they really go through them. Depends on how bad they want to get you afterwards. Possibly they can or can not pull everything from your route from that day. Electronic footprints,Scale house records,cell records, video tapes from from various places. Its very rare in todays world that you are not being recorded somewhere or somehow. Real easy to estimate where you got fuel the last time then back track you to your last electronically recorded fueling spot. It all depends on what you did and how freaking bad they want to pin it on you.
You hit a school bus, kill a half dozen kids. They figure out your logs are false for the day. They figure out for the week, month, and you havea pattern of this behavior? Well you just come on back here and tell us how you and Bubba are getting along in prison.
That's pretty much the case with ~all receipts. You should be fine. I suspect it's safe to assume this isn't too big a deal for most carriers. Warning, maybe a talk. There's that huge driver shortage... If you plan to continue to optimize your log you might want to consider getting driversdailylog.com
in all honesty, you can fight it in court, a receipt is not binding, it is merely hearsay, the DOT would have to summon the person who programs the computer on that receipt and verify that the time is accurate and what DOT guy is going to do that in a traffic court case?
