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We called them burned outs for a reason.

I go on medical calls and still have to deal with them and the after effects.

By all means, you have the ability to provide proof and scientific data that this does not happen, show it.

There is a driver at our company that I immediately had suspicions about. I later found that yes, I am correct. He has not ever been called for a drug test. He even now admits it.

I have to be able to recognize that people may be under these types of influence for treatments.

Here is a site for some information other than opinions.

http://uodos.uoregon.edu/Programs/SubstanceAbusePreventionandStudentSuccess/Marijuana.aspx

 

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Hi Roadmedic, 1st, I don't condone use of anything while driving, simply because it affects different people in different ways, as someone said, and you might not know that until it's too late. But to say the effects last for days is pure baloney. 2nd, how did a driver not ever take a drug test? You can't get around it, even if you have a connection on the inside, unless, the person pulling the numbers, is fudging it somehow, and there are severe penalties for that. Lastly, that site is full of maybe's and generalities,and one could make up a site like that for not buying Freightliners. As my name says, I'm "semi" retired, so I don't care too much what happens in the trucking industry, but have to be clean, because one get's tested for flipping burgers now, so it's just not worth it. I'm just sick and tired of peoples old fashioned ideas about weed. Crank, coke, meth,(same as crank?) nasty, nasty stuff, but weed is not as evil as people make it out to be.

 

[QUOTE="semi" retired;4030107]Hi Roadmedic, 1st, I don't condone use of anything while driving, simply because it affects different people in different ways, as someone said, and you might not know that until it's too late. But to say the effects last for days is pure baloney. 2nd, how did a driver not ever take a drug test? You can't get around it, even if you have a connection on the inside, unless, the person pulling the numbers, is fudging it somehow, and there are severe penalties for that. Lastly, that site is full of maybe's and generalities,and one could make up a site like that for not buying Freightliners. As my name says, I'm "semi" retired, so I don't care too much what happens in the trucking industry, but have to be clean, because one get's tested for flipping burgers now, so it's just not worth it. I'm just sick and tired of peoples old fashioned ideas about weed. Crank, coke, meth,(same as crank?) nasty, nasty stuff, but weed is not as evil as people make it out to be.[/QUOTE]

The driver took the pre employment. He has never been called for a random. Read the link that I posted. It has some of the information concerning long term usage and the long effects.

Many of the burn outs in school would toke in the morning, then lunch and no idea how much later. They had long term effects to the mental abilities.

If they want to use the drugs, put the keys away and stay away from commercial driving. How would you like the pilot of a plane or a captain of a ship doing it. What about a bus driver.

If so, then the training and schooling for this in error.

Here is another link

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/short-and-long-term-effects.html

We have responsibilities to the public as professional drivers.

 

I know that, clearly, the morning ,noon, and afternoon people have a problem. But to bust someone on a Monday, that may have smoked on a Friday night, I feel is wrong. Again, I agree with you, doing anything while driving is wrong, but I'm just not so sure about recreational use. And sadly, I hear once in a while about bus drivers, commuter train drivers, pilots that are drinking, failing drug tests, no industry is immune. I heard a while back, Union-Pacific had a job fair for 50 jobs, took 300 applications and 3/4 of the applicants failed the drug test. This country has a huge drug problem, I don't have an answer, but feel truck drivers get undue blame for a much bigger problem. We can argue all night, and I appreciate your comments, we can both agree it's a big problem, and we just can't keep filling up our prisons with these people.

 

[QUOTE="semi" retired;4030127]I know that, clearly, the morning ,noon, and afternoon people have a problem. But to bust someone on a Monday, that may have smoked on a Friday night, I feel is wrong. Again, I agree with you, doing anything while driving is wrong, but I'm just not so sure about recreational use. And sadly, I hear once in a while about bus drivers, commuter train drivers, pilots that are drinking, failing drug tests, no industry is immune. I heard a while back, Union-Pacific had a job fair for 50 jobs, took 300 applications and 3/4 of the applicants failed the drug test. This country has a huge drug problem, I don't have an answer, but feel truck drivers get undue blame for a much bigger problem. We can argue all night, and I appreciate your comments, we can both agree it's a big problem, and we just can't keep filling up our prisons with these people.[/QUOTE]

I feel as you do, that the truck driver seems to get an unfair look at most times. You can see attorney signs along the interstate, all about truck accidents.

I wonder about the truth on drug testing and substance and alcohol abuse in the police force.

Your Union Pacific stats surely are amazing to see and wonder about the future.

I hired in accounting in the 90's and some came to the interview under the influence. I have no answer.

 

Alcohol is currently legal.

I'm sure the majority of us at some point in life have enjoyed an alcoholic beverage. A handful probably never have, and a handful probably overdid it and had control issues. We're mostly responsible adults and would never drive impaired, would never go out and get hammered and then hop in the truck the next morning hung over and start driving.. Most of us wouldn't bring alcohol on the truck and probably wouldn't even drink while we're on the road period. I find it hard to believe that it will be any different with legalized pot, especially consider there will be severe consequences for driving intoxicated, whether it's marijuana or alcohol or whatever.

With legalized pot, you'll have your knuckleheads much like we have now, but it's pretty ignorant to think that the world is going to come crashing down because a mostly harmless plant is legal. The stereotypical lazy stoner burnout kid is just that, a BS stereotype.

I myself, am looking forward to getting home, and having a beer or two. And maybe some scotch. I love me a good IPA. For the record, I do not currently smoke pot, nor have I in the past. I may give it a shout some day when it's legal federally or I've moved on from trucking, but until then, I will continue to keep an open mind, and I won't be persuaded by propaganda disseminated by those who stand to profit most from the war on drugs - overzealous law enforcement agencies and the pharmaceutical, paper, tobacco, and alcohol industries. Marijuana was made illegal in the first place so certain industries wouldn't have to deal with competition, and is currently illegal mostly because police departments just have to have armored vehicles, tanks, and SWAT teams to terrorize people into submission.. And then theres the private prison industry, but that's another story.

 

if I live long enough to retirement im blazin up, but until then no dice

 

I never used the word 'tolerable'. I was only stating that 'ethy alcohol' and 'cannabinoids' impair persons in very different ways and that ethyl alcohol is far more dangerous than cannibinoids.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...driving-more-than-marijuana.html#.U39rHvldWSo

It may take some time finding the actual study. It was on a closed course where the measured speed control, stopping distance, following distance, lane postion, etc., while under increasing levels of impariedness under both drugs.

 

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