Fauci says face masks could become seasonal after Covid pandemic

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  1. Bean Jr.

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    Although there are people who do think like you describe here, most do not. We understand that the rona is an actual disease and it has killed millions world wide. What we don't trust is governments' reaction to it as well as the "experts". Is the Wall Street Journal a conspiracy theorist? Opinion | China, Fauci and the Origins of Covid
     
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  3. slow.rider

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    Most Republicans do think that way (using the word "think" loosely, of course), and WSJ is owned by News Corp, which is front and center in the anti-science crusade.
     
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    I enjoy a mask on some people when they right in my face screaming just like a Lunetic==. Works kinda neat at those times. Especially, when they finally rip it right off there mug and open up with both barrel's.
     
  5. slow.rider

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    Usually the ones screaming are the ones without a mask, screaming about constitutional rights, and conspiracy.
     
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  6. Muskie

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    Funny, you ask is the WSJ a conspiracy source and then you add a link to a opinion article outside the WSJ. I'm not disputing what the possible source of the virus outbreak could be. What I do have a problem with is how conspiracists have used the pandemic origin as a way to deflect the argument from how poorly we, as a country, handled or are handling the virus here. As far as blaming folks here in the US, like Fauci, for this pandemic origin, I think is a far reach by the right to discredit the exceptional work by Fauci in fighting this pandemic here at home. A way to discredit our institutions current advice by the experts. Typical right wing tactics to deflect responsibility. Shameful.
     
  7. Scooter Jones

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    I read this article in the New York Times yesterday. Pretty interesting read on the whole subject.

    A Misleading C.D.C. Number

    Here's a couple of pull quotes:

    "But the number is almost certainly misleading. It appears to be based partly on a misclassification of some Covid transmission that actually took place in enclosed spaces (as I explain below). An even bigger issue is the extreme caution of C.D.C. officials, who picked a benchmark — 10 percent — so high that nobody could reasonably dispute it.

    That benchmark “seems to be a huge exaggeration,” as Dr. Muge Cevik, a virologist at the University of St. Andrews, said. In truth, the share of transmission that has occurred outdoors seems to be below 1 percent and may be below 0.1 percent, multiple epidemiologists told me. The rare outdoor transmission that has happened almost all seems to have involved crowded places or close conversation."

    "These recommendations would be more grounded in science if anywhere close to 10 percent of Covid transmission were occurring outdoors. But it is not. There is not a single documented Covid infection anywhere in the world from casual outdoor interactions, such as walking past someone on a street or eating at a nearby table."
     
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    Selective editing, highly misleading. But it sure does look like you're admitting that Fauci didn't need a mask at the baseball game.
     
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    Another interesting pull quote from that article:
    "If you read the academic research that the C.D.C. has cited in defense of the 10 percent benchmark, you will notice something strange. A very large share of supposed cases of outdoor transmission have occurred in a single setting: construction sites in Singapore....

    ...In one study, 95 of 10,926 worldwide instances of transmission are classified as outdoors; all 95 are from Singapore construction sites. In another study, four of 103 instances are classified as outdoors; again, all four are from Singapore construction sites.

    This obviously doesn’t make much sense. It instead appears to be a misunderstanding that resembles the childhood game of telephone, in which a message gets garbled as it passes from one person to the next."
     
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  10. Bean Jr.

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    That being the case, his wearing one on the mound was misleading and virtue signaling.
     
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  11. Bean Jr.

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    The authors source material was written by Nicholas Wade who writes for many publications including the NYT. Do you think that this is a conspiracy theorist page?

    The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan? - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
     
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