Fifth wheel slide effect on trailer weight?

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  1. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    Correct.

    I'm probably reading this wrong but I'm really confused. With tandems all the way forward you're putting more weight on them and that's where you seem to have a problem. Also, spacing out the load makes me think you're distributing it across more of the trailer as opposed to starting at the nose and keeping it tight. If that's the case then spacing it out also contributes to adding weight to the tandems.

    What am I missing?
     
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  3. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    Belly load it, slide tandems back to get the drives up and trailer down.
     
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  4. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Loading it backwards anyway, you generally want more weight on the drives, but like said, slide the tandems back and roll.
    My steers are typically at 13,500, and it has never caused any problem.
     
  5. firecatf7333

    firecatf7333 Light Load Member

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    Maybe I worded this wrong... The load is loaded at the very front of trailer and goes back to around 40 ft.

    Drives are 34500 an trailer axles are 28000 with the tandems all the way up front. Sliding my tandems back is going to take weight off the trailer and more on the drives,, making it worse.
     
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  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Well then, since that makes every piece you’ve gotten here so far BS, I would have to agree. o_O
     
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  7. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    Yeah you worded it wrong. You either need to keep it unitized and scoot the load back about 4feet or split load.

    With a spread axle skateboard hauling avg 46k palletized loads we generally belly load from the landing gear back, which will usually end the load at about the forward spread and are pretty even on our axle weights there. The trailer frame acts as a bit of suspension and this also makes for a bit easier/more consistent of a steer since the rear trailer axle will usually skid when theyre crossed up. It rides and drives nice.

    If i have to split load its usually 5-7 pallets fully front, and rest very back depending on the pallet weight. But i hate the driving characteristics. Having a spread at 38k and drives at like 28k fights you a lot. Without air gauges its hard to know what youre doing at loadup.. Theyre worth every penny! I know OP is on closed tandems but new spread drivers may benefit from that info.
     
  8. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    Yeah, your 1st post had the 34500 on the trailer. Can you put a spacer in the nose and move the whole load back?
     
  9. mustang190

    mustang190 Road Train Member

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    It’s been a while but, I always loaded pallets (heavy ones) single-double-single and the rest double.
    And if that won’t fix the weight problem you can always slide the drivers seat a couple of notches. :)
     
  10. snowwy

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    Don't even know why he even threw in the 5th wheel if his drives are already too heavy.
     
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  11. starmac

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    WOW. lol, yep load the load more to the center. lol
     
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