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Finally got my own truck

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BoyWander, Jan 1, 2017.

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  1. May 27, 2017 #961
    BoyWander

    BoyWander Road Train Member

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    So...Who is the one doing whom a favor?? If I agree to take care of the load at 3pm for $2050 on 450 miles in an extremely tight market, am I doing the favor or are they doing me the favor? I see it as mutual benefit. There's a market for those who are available to help someone out in an emergency for a premium. Guys like me who do that on occasion are needed and necessary. I don't wallet-rape them every time and I'm more than willing to take a market rate when the situation fits. In fact, I'd like to help out CHR for a smaller rate just to put it in their system that I can be reasonable and they don't have to be afraid to call me.
     
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  3. May 27, 2017 #962
    nax

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    Have a friend that pulls gets fed by CHR.

    He nets 3K+ per 5-day week in summer and about 2K/week in slow season....and he runs the GA-AL-TN-OH-MI-SC-NC lanes.

    There might be some truth to this...but I dont think @BoyWander has his own MC. We dont know how old his "boss's" MC is.
     
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  4. May 27, 2017 #963
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    I've kept in touch with a lot of folks i used to pull for when i ran vans and reefers. Now that they aren't customers some have moved into the buddy column. I was talking to one of them earlier this week, he is a produce broker. One of the middle men between the farmer and the grocery store. This week he was having to pay trucks up to 4k from florida to the Ohio valley area. Pittsburgh/cleveland/chicago. You've missed the memorial day surge, but its worth considering to position yourself for the 4th of july surge. By then they will be shipping out of the southern central ga area. Tifton/cordelle area. But do your homework on produce brokers. Produce is an exempt commidity so they don't need any of the requirements of a regular truck broker.
     
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  5. May 27, 2017 #964
    boredsocial

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    He's overpaying the hell out of you. That's because he doesn't have a choice, true, but you're a pretty ####ty person if you don't reciprocate the high price and do a good job. Unfortunately there are TONS of crappy people out there who will do a crummy job on a load that pays 3+ a mile.
     
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  7. May 27, 2017 #965
    boredsocial

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    You're inflating the FL-OH numbers for this week by a good bit.
     
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  8. May 27, 2017 #966
    spyder7723

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    If you say so boss. Just passing on the info from a guy I've known 20 years. Now obviously he didn't have to pay every truck that, but the ones that know how to squeeze every dollar out were able to get him to open up the check book early in the week when those loads of melons he was contractually obligated to make sure they hit krogers shelves for the weekend just had to go.

    Just like the prior thursday me and 5 others got 1700(after carriers cut) on an 18 mile move. Doesn't happen every day but sure is nice when market conditions allow you to really reap the rewards.
     
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  9. May 27, 2017 #967
    spyder7723

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    Those of us who regularly get those rates ALWAYS do a good job. That's how we regularly get great paying rates. Screw it up once and that customer(either direct or broker) will never pay you that rate again.
     
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  10. May 27, 2017 #968
    BoyWander

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    It might be worth noting that this most recent load to SC, the broker gave me his personal number to text when I got loaded, empty. So I did. I unloaded an hour or two earlier than he requested because the consignee wanted it right then and there. So I text him a picture of the signed BOL, told him load was delivered, thanks again for the business, enjoy your weekend. Never got a text back. And to be honest, I don't even see things by the mile anymore. I see it by time. I could have gotten $2.80/mile to NJ and would have made more money even on the return trip but I was willing to take his load for that. I'm sorry if you quoted your customer a price that you're not always able to make a profit on, but that's not really my fault.

    Freight rates could go up 50% across the board and it's not going to hurt prices on the shelves that much.

    On a load value of $80,000 if they normally pay $1200, and then they have to pay $1800 regularly, that's not even adding 1% to the cost. So it's a bunch of BS. Are they accustomed to paying 50% more? No, but it's not going to hurt the shippers to pay that. They pay $3500 for the same load going across the country as they do $1000 to go 400 miles away. Obviously the $3500 doesn't hurt them, and they're accustomed to paying that.

    Even on the cheapest commodities, say a $10,000 value load, $1000 to $1500 is only a 5% increase to the cost of the commodity. So the price of a bag of cotton at the drugstore goes from $.99 to $1.09 after all is said and done. Big deal. I don't want to hear complaining about it. The brokers put themselves in that situation by trying to out compete others. Too many of them anyways. I will never book a Landstar load unless I absolutely have to. Trying to pawn off $1/mi freight in a $2.50/mi market and they don't care if it sits.
     
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  11. May 27, 2017 #969
    spyder7723

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    Only thing i would disagree with you on is the statement about landstar. Not all landstar agents are created equal. several years ago i did a lot of business with a specific agent that handled quite a bit of florida power and light loads, ge turbines, etc. Was very lucrative freight.
     
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  12. May 27, 2017 #970
    Western flyer

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    Are you on e-logs
     
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