Thanks to everyone who has given me a response in this thread. I'm hoping by October or November to go to school and then be on the road by the following month.
Financial independence as a result of becoming a trucker?
Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by ahutchi1, Aug 2, 2008.
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If money is a concern, you can sign on with a company that has there own trucking school. Trucking is just like the real world as far as budgeting. You budget how much you are going to spend on various things and put aside the rest. As far as a reference, just put down the company. If it asks for name just put HR they can call HR. They are only allowed to ask certain questions anyway, so HR would have that info.
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I had always been a local driver, then decided to go OTR last year for more money.
I make a good bit more now than I did as a local driver.
I have paid off several credit cards this past year, and a decent chunk off of my house.
It is very possible.
Some of the training companys are not too bad. They do look at drivers more as a number than a person at times though, but part of getting past that is good comunication with dispatch.
I have been at Central Ref. for over a year, and they are not too bad.
New students get 425 a week for first 2 weeks with a trainer, 500 a week for second 2 weeks. And they pay 50 a week for a year to pay off the school. If they go to the company school.
You would make money, and if they were not right for you then you can leave, just make sure you pay them back the balance of the school bill.ahutchi1 Thanks this. -
Anyway, i worked my ### off in college part time/full time/anytime i could. had a business during the summer painting/doing construction. but, except for the construction bit, when someone asks me what i did with my life for 3 years, "College" is a totally acceptable answer. Were it me, instead of trying to list the 3450898584 jobs I had on campus, I would just say "I was a Student at _____". For everyone I've run into, that's a good enough job description.
Good luck ... have you checked out training with a company? No/little cost up front and you're already hired provided you pass. they take tuition out of your checks every week. just a thought.
BTW, I would die for a spouse that was as nuts about trucking as myself ... go get yourself a big truck truckin girl and team and make the real money...and then try not to kill each other because you spend so much time together in such a small space ... i guess.
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Right now though I am still considering the trucking option, but I'm also exploring getting a better paying position in another department with the employer I am at right now. I am also considering looking at trying to get on with UPS part-time as a package handler. If none of these options play out then I'll actually do something about becoming a driver, but for right now I am keeping it on the back burner. I would like to eventually become a trucker but I'd prefer that I start with little to no debts that I would have to pay off. Although I've noticed that life doesn't always turn out as one would hope. -
For example, they don't teach you how to avoid getting hijacked when you carry high-value loads like electronics, cigarettes, heavy-alcohol beverage, software like video game CDs, etc.... A full truckload of any of these merchandise can easily be sold at swapmeets or the internet like Ebay. If you go to any local swapmeet in your area, you'll notice police, detectives, or PIs (private detectives) are walking around, watching out for merchandise that fit the descriptions of stolen or hijacked trailers. They don't discuss chaining up a truck during heavy snow in winter operations. Trucking schools simply focus on passing the written test & driving test, which is only 10 percent of the job. The other 90 percent is discussed when you go out with a trainer.
Drivers who are initially hired, then later dismissed during their training, had either lied on their application, or had understated the seriousness of a past criminal conviction. When you sign on with a trucking company, you sign a liability waiver, agreeing to be placed on a nationwide databank of CDL drivers; and you agree that this privately-held databank company will release your confidential info to any prospective employer you apply with. Should your confidential info fall into the wrong hands (identity theft), you agree to absolve them of negligence, and you waive your rights to seeking compensatory damages arising from the consequential damages of your identity being stolen.
Now for the reality, and you begin to realize why trucking companies have serious driver turnover issues. You arrive at the shipper, & its a live-load, meaning you back into the dock, and you wait till they finish loading the trailer. You'll be leaving the gate 3 hours (or more) after you first arrived. You look at the manifest, and realize you're delivering to a grocery distribution warehouse (music background theme from the movie "Jaws" is playing). When you arrive at the grocery distribution warehouse, you find a long line of trucks waiting outside the gate entrance. You get on the CB radio to tell the other drivers you have a 6 AM appointment, and everyone tells you the same thing. You realize they had overbooked (music background theme from the movie "Psycho" now playing).
Sure there are enough docks for everyone, but there are only enough forklift drivers to unload half (or less) of the trucks scheduled to be received. You talk to the lumper foreman, and he tells you "Si señor, your company, Sodomy Trucking, has an account with us. You go take a siesta in your truck, and I call you when we're done." In which case, they'll restack your grocery merchandise & unload your trailer. If your trucking company doesn't have an account with the lumper, he'll want $400 cash in advance, or a comcheck (which he'll verify to make sure the authorization numbers are valid) before he unloads you.
In the trucking business, when you haul food & groceries, bound for grocery distribution warehouses, the trucking fees include the lumper's fee. However, some trucking companies will pocket this extra $$ and pay you $100 (or less) to restack & unload the freight. Which is why you should avoid companies who can't promise "guaranteed no-touch freight" in writing, in bold letters.
So it takes you an entire morning to manually unload a grocery load, and you're tired and worn out as you drive out the exit gate 6 hours after you first arrived. Delays at shippers and receivers will mean the difference between a good paycheck at the end of the week, and regretting you ever got into this line of work in the first place. I can't give you a quote of how much you'll make because it really depends on how consistent your dispatcher keeps you running, and if your trucking company has the decency to avoid doing business with customers who don't give a #### how long it takes to load or unload a truck.
Some companies offer delay pay, but you have to be vigilant in reading your paycheck to make sure they paid you. Some companies will claim "computer error" when you notice you didn't get your "dock delay" pay, and will consistently give the same excuse when you notice they neglected to pay you again the following week. They're hoping you don't notice your "dock delay" pay was never credited to your payroll account. If you and 20 other drivers fail to notice you never got paid for delays at the shippers/receivers, this means extra $$ revenue from lower payroll cost.
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And you cant forget the load planner who got directions to your delivery from the receptionist who drives a 4-wheeler, and never noticed that the railroad underpass she goes under every morning on her way to work is only 12 ft tall. Then there's the wait after you get unloaded because your reload won't be ready till the next morning, but by the time you get out of the receiver, all those other trucks who were in line ahead of you when you arrived have already filled up all the parking spaces at the only truckstop within 50 miles.
And, Lord forbid you should refuse a load because you are almost out of hours, because then you end up on your dispatcher's #### list and only get the crappiest loads for the next week or so, depending on how long he or she holds a grudge.
But despite the headaches, its not all bad. Its an adventure every day, you get paid to see the country, and you have your very own corner office on wheels.
And if you are smart you can get all your debts paid off pretty quickly.
My husband and I, driving team, got some pretty hefty credit card debt paid off in about two years, paid off nearly half of our mortgage in the third year, and still managed to squeeze in a trip to Hawaii. -
Real truckers don't need sleep anyways. -
Churn is an industry term for washouts and turnover. Most people don't want to work 70-100hrs a week for so little, with so many liabilities, and away from everybody they know.
If I was in debt and looking for a way out
it would be irrational to spend time/money to possibly makemore money.
Btw you will not get paid for every mile you run, maybe 95% you will. The math is easy. Also there labor law for the transportation industry are not in your favor.
As far as the worst case scenario on miles. It can get real ugly. You could be spending thanksgiving or christmas away from everybody you care about in some truck stop with the stench of urine in the middle of nowhere not making a dime because freight is real slow that time of year.
But at least your truck will be warm, assuming the heater works and your truck is running.
Trucking companies protect themselves from the worst case scenario in time and labor by lobbing the gov't to exempt the industry from minimum wage and other laws that protect workers.
Have you ever worked 80-90hrs a week for $200-500 in a small area with someone you despise a lot of "trainees" have.
But hey. It is "what you make of it" words of a trapped man living a life of quiet desperation.
btw, I like being OTR and I even work for a "good" company but it is what it is and it isn't anyway to live, unless you want to live to work.
I'm Goodtogo not negative -
Becoming a trucker is I guess what some might call my version of the "American Dream" however it all comes down to whether or not I could afford it. Also, I have an uncle who was a trucker for a short time and he didn't care much for the lifestyle. His story is that he was ripped off a lot of the time and that there were to many homosexuals for his tastes. And he didn't like the fact of not being able to attend worship services on Sundays as well as other factors.
I want to find a job that I'll enjoy and be able to do for a few years and be proud of, but I'm just not sure now if trucking would fit for me. I am one of those types of people that can't stand being stuck in one location, so for me a truck driving career sounded like something I could handle. Now though, with the economy the way it is and my uncle and grandma discouraging me about the idea I'm beginning to have some serious doubts.
Maybe I'll look for another job that I can come to tolerate that will pay the bills and support a family (when I finally do decide to settle down) but can never really make me happy.We'll see what happens in the next few weeks to months.
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