Fire Retardant

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  1. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    I’m surprised that “retardant” doesn’t get censored
     
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  3. SavageMuffin

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    I get $400 a year from my company for a clothing allowance.

    I got shirts and pants plus coveralls. I like the pants and shirts, more comfortable. If I’m hauling septic I like coveralls.

    Look online and you can probably find things cheaper.

    As far as if it’s better idk. I know a guy who was in a dog house that exploded and wasn’t wearing any FRC and he was fine.

    As far as winter. I wear fr pants and shirts, thermals under shirts and pants, a hoodie and coveralls. Maybe wool socks too. Obviously all that is subjective to how cold it is.
     
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  4. WesternPlains

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    I"m just wondering about actual use for the most part.

    I know legally. I can get away with wearing just about anything under my FR CAT2 coveralls.

    I could get away with wearing my Arctic Wear (cordura nylon shell) under a pair of FR CAT2 coveralls. Would need to get a FR CAT2 hood to go over my Arctic Wear hood.
    Not sure I want to do that though.

    I know how good 100% cotton is for fire retardant from electricity. Pretty good.
    I also worked in an explosives plant. They would apply fire retardant to anything you gave them. So you could wear what you wanted.

    I'm just wondering. Considering buying...??? That stuff is expensive.

    When I bought my Arctic Wear. Lady said the guys working the oil fields loved that stuff. Bought it like crazy. Take it for granted they put CAT2 coveralls over it? Because it's not cat2 and it's cordura nylon.
    I've seen in electricity what polymers do in a flash. You don't want that on you.
    I am wondering how good the classic carhartt is? Compared to Carhartt's Polar Wear. Maybe they call it extreme wear now? It's black. I know I love my Polar Wear. Stood with my back to a -30 wind chill and laughed at it.

    Really... just wondering on talk and advise. Know what I have to do legally. Wanting to know what comprehensively.
    I don't think I'd want to be caught in a fire with my Polar Wear on. Even covered with FR CAT2 coveralls. That Polar Wear will melt instantly. And where does it melt to? On me.
     
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    Winter is a whole different animal. They know this stuff is expensive. And most places don't fault you for just trying to stay warm. I don't plan on being in any fireballs, I use the same Arctic bib. That thing has kept me tolerable in -60. Grab your bib and your coat, I have a really nice fr coat from working the workover rigs, and take one of those FR reflective vests over them. No one will be the wiser
     
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  6. WesternPlains

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    I'm guessing for summer. My overalls are doing pretty good. One pair they gave me. It's oversize. It's pretty good when it's hot out. Might even be best choice?
     
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    How many times can you wash fire retardant clothing before it becomes ineffective? 3-5 times?

    Well, it doesn't have be be effective as long as you have it for company policy makers to remain happy. :D
     
  8. WesternPlains

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    I partially agree. The biggest part is the material. 100% cotton is pretty good as a fire retardant. It's just a retardant. Not fire proof.
    There is a chemical that can be sprayed on it to make it more so. I'd like to see that service available.
     
  9. Dick Danger

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    I'm unclear as to why the OP keeps saying regular untreated cotton is fire retardant. That's just silly.

    The simple solution is to buy what you need, or work for a company that supplies your FR gear.

    In the winter wool undies are your friend. Was on a job once when a hot oiler when up. The operators FR gear did exactly what it was supposed to do. Unfortunately the blast of heat melted his undergarments. It was like he got shrink-wrapped in long underwear.
     
  10. WesternPlains

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    You didn't read that I've worked in electricity? A flash of electricity is nothing but a quick flame. It also can contain molten copper, aluminum, etc. flying through the air. I've watched slow motion film of a flash. It isn't pretty. Most injuries in electricity are burns from the flash. Not the electric shock causing heart attack.
    People wearing 100% cotton do very well in a flash. Surprisingly well. I've seen it first hand. People wearing polymers do badly. I've seen that also. First hand. You're better off exposing your bare skin to a flame, than to allow a polymer to do the same. It will melt on your body. Then sink in burning. Again...I've seen it.
    100% cotton works well as a flame RETARDANT.
    To say 100% cotton is FIREPROOF is just plain silly. Like you said.

    Yes, I had a career in electricity. At the very top for a blue collar worker in electricity. I tested electricial apparatus. All that big stuff in substations, and generating stations. I've applied as much as 750KV to an apparatus.
     
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  11. Dick Danger

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    You should remember where your're working. If you want your electrical experience to be more relevant you should go back to that industry. I haven't had to opportunity to watch slow motion videos of electrical flashes, however I have been on the scene catostrophic injury in the oil field. Regular untreated cotton is not flame retardant, to insist otherwise is silly and dangerous. And as long as we're beating the dead horse, nothing is fire proof.
     
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