Fired from Werner over bad reference

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by nwtrucker, Oct 18, 2006.

  1. drive55cat

    drive55cat Medium Load Member

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    Werner is not going to give you written anything, don't hold your breath. I am not shure about your currant situation, seek legal advice. In the future though, have someone call your previous employer to see what they say, this may help as the issue here is not what happened but it's a different story. Also, what comes around, goes around. Did you ever hear of, (Ripoffs.com) go there, also check if this guy has to be registered or certified in his line of work and file a complaint with that governing agency. Don't just look at it as an unemployed driver, lying is not exactly legal and may be considered fraud in some cases. False accusation may be a consideration also. Check the internet for free legal advice.
     
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  3. Truckerjo

    Truckerjo Road Train Member

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    Follow what this guy said.... Your former employer has to prove it despite what others have said here.. That's a fact.... So, they will now have to pay you for lost wages.....


    It may not be detailed but Werner will have to send you at your request a letter of dismissal... (reason) It may simply state negative reference from past employer...
     
  4. :biggrin_25513:It sounds like you're an example of Werner's "drivers are equipment" attitude. I've noticed from personal experience and accounts from others that Werner simply discards a driver that poses the slightest inconvenience for them. The conflicting reports between you and your former employer, and (I'm sad to say) that you'd filed suit with him.... It's sad, but sticking up for one's self legally can make others worry about a "sue happy" situation. Werner has MUCH to fear in the area of lawsuits. Their dismal record of treatment I'm sure has come back to haunt them.
    I'd first file a complaint with the appropriate labor board. As I understand it, Legally, an employer has to have written permission from you to talk about WHY they ended the employment, but even so, they'd better be able to back up what they say. Getting a letter from the state attorney's office/labor board might wake up this guy to his vulnerability to lawsuits. You'd be able to avoid the stigma of suing an employer, and be left with the last little hurdle: How to explain how things shook down with Werner. A last bit of advice::::: Sugarcoat however you need to (and stay honest) to avoid giving the false impression that you tend to piss-off employers when you leave. Most recruiters are well aware of Werner's style, so will likely cut you some slack. Good Luck pardner!
     
  5. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Any advice given to the OP I'm sure won't help him since his post was over a year and a half ago. I'd sure like to know what happened.

    But the jewel of this is the lesson that can be learned by new drivers or any drivers for that matter. Any time you deal with any legal issues cya. Make copies of all the paperwork and file them away just incase. I've kept all of my records from many years ago and just put them into a box and in the basement they went. I even have my first log book from over 20 years ago. You never know when you might need proof and having the documents along with names and phone numbers will be gold.
     
  6. nwtrucker

    nwtrucker Bobtail Member

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    Hello All,

    It's been awhile since I posted, but I just wanted to update the situation and put this story to bed.

    Basically everything worked itself out in the end. After I worked for UPS I did sign on with Schneider for a little over 6 months. They had no problems with my job history, they never even raised a question. I ran as hard as I could with them while I was there. I didn't make much money, which goes without saying, but I accumulated the experience to make the next step.

    Last summer, I got a job with a local auto transport company. I felt this was a natural step for me, given my experience in the automotive field. I can honestly say that was the best move I could have made. I'm making almost 3 times the income I was at Schneider or Werner, and I work less hours. I'm home every weekend and most nights. I'm out of the truck loading my own freight and getting some fresh air, not just sitting in the seat.

    A couple of months ago I settled my lawsuit with the guy who caused me all the trouble to begin with, and I thought it was a fair deal. I put the check in the bank and moved on.

    I think if I learned anything it's that you just can't give up. Someone out there is always willing to take a chance on you and give you a job, there's just not enough drivers out there. I have enough experience now to go work where I want, and I'm building up experience as a car hauler. This seems to be one of the most well paid trucking jobs available, but it's also probably one of the most difficult. I'll just keep at it and maybe master it someday.

    As far as working for a large trucking company like Werner or Schneider, never again. You're just a number there, a blip on the screen. As a specialized driver working for a small company, I get way more respect from employer and customers alike, people actually know my name. It's just a night and day environment. Sometimes I miss touring the country, but I get over it fast.

    Anyway, thanks to all that replied and gave advice, it was much appreciated. If anyone else finds themselves in a similar situation, my advice would be to keep filling out job apps and only answer specific questions with specific answers.
     
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  7. pcfreak

    pcfreak Heavy Load Member

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    Gotta be nice to have all that behind you.
     
  8. chicadriver

    chicadriver Light Load Member

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    You have the power of the Internet right here. Seek out other Werner students who have employment practice grievances and contact the same lawyer. And good luck to you if you decide to persue Werner ... as that problem may follow you around. (Get a copy of your DAC and see what they put on it.) Congrats on your new job.
     
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  9. 4mrNuB

    4mrNuB Bobtail Member

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    earthbrown said,

    "It is also 100% illegal to say someone stole tools, without a conviction to match. If you were never arrested and convicted for theft, they cannot tell them that...."

    great point!
     
  10. Truckerjo

    Truckerjo Road Train Member

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    I am glad everything worked out for you as well... Glad to see good things do happen still in this country for people.
     
  11. Just a noob

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    DOT requires 10 years history if you have a CDL already.
     
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