Fireworks

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Popeye1, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh yeah? Where'd you get popped at?
     
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  3. Popeye1

    Popeye1 Bobtail Member

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    It was the toll booth on the 895. The cop was nice and only wrote me for improper lane. Could of written me for restricted cmv. $90.00 I think my trainer should of paid it he told me to take it. So much for thinking
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  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Evidently he can't read signs either. 102's are not allowed through there. You'll find that in the Truckers' Atlas. Hmmph... Some trainer...!

    I have one retard I work with who was looking for a different way to get back to the yard for ... whatever reason, and he tried to go through there. What a dummy, another one that can't read signs. They got him for doubles, hazmat, and too wide.
     
  5. wackywoodie

    wackywoodie Bobtail Member

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    yes you did you could tell the company that the trainer was violating the Hazmat regulation and refuse to drive the truck, unless you had the plackards up for flamable/ explosive and in which case the trainer would need to be hazmat cert
     
  6. wallbanger

    wallbanger "Enemy of showers everywhere"

    Yeah, but he'd be shooting himself in the ### by doing that, remember, he was near the end of his time with the trainer and looking to finish it up.
     
  7. Fire Deity

    Fire Deity Bobtail Member

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    Yeah listen to wallbanger, if he finds out you told on him (which will be obvious that you did) he will make the remainder of your trip hell, just keep your mouth shut and pretend they arent there :biggrin_25523:
     
  8. the punisher

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    I worked in Arizona as a state officer for a brief period after military service. (hated it by the way)...I don't know what the law is about having them in a CMV. I live in Tennessee now so I don't care, I can buy them here...but when I was in AZ the answer was YES...In AZ it is illeal to shoot off fireworks or buy them (wild fires), But with a receipt...YES..you could carry them in AZ. You only had to show that you abided by the law of not buying them in AZ (so have the receipt) and if you were not caught shooting them off then you were abiding by that law as well. That was as a private vehicle though. They never said anything to us about CMV and I never dealt with weigh stations or truckers when I worked out there. I worked in the small towns, not on the highway. But from what I recall, it would have been fine in your cab (with a receipt). It would be considered no different than carrying a firearm across state lines. You can do that with propper licensing from your home state (just like the receipt with firworks).

    I won't say anything is offical though. I can tell you one thing for sure that is fact...they are not considered HAZMAT. Fireworks fall under firearms laws. Those are two different codes of law.

    I haul flat bed heavy's now and haven't thought about that in a while. I hated that job...just move to TN !!! we'll drink beer and shoot off fireworks !!!
     
  9. the punisher

    the punisher Bobtail Member

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    I should add clarification to that..like I haven't talked your ears off already....

    You have to check with the states you are going through for posession laws.

    In AZ (as my example) it is only illegal to buy/sell or use fireworks. So if you had a receipt to show you did not buy them there, then you were good which is why I would bet that no officer would give you a ticket in AZ for them (receipt provided).

    Like any other law..if it is illegal to possess them in that state, then it is illegal no matter what. most states it is not illegal to privately possess them though. CMV...who knows?

    This forum needs a spell check.
     
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  10. Johnny.Blaze

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    this should clear it up a little.



    Date of Hearing: July 2, 2007

    ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
    Pedro Nava, Chair
    SB 839 (Calderon) - As Amended: June 25, 2007

    SENATE VOTE : 24-10

    SUBJECT
    : Fireworks

    SUMMARY : Revises the penalties for possession and
    transportation of dangerous fireworks, as specified, and
    establishes a fund from the proceeds of all fines and fees
    collected related to dangerous fireworks violations earmarked
    for enforcement of dangerous fireworks law. Specifically, this
    bill
    :

    1)Provides that on or before July 1, 2008, the State Fire
    Marshall (SFM) is to identify and evaluate methods to capture
    more detailed data relating to fires, damages, and injuries
    caused by both dangerous fireworks and safe and sane
    fireworks. These evaluation methods are to include a cost
    analysis related to capturing and reporting the data.

    2)Provides that the Office of the SFM is to consult with public
    safety agencies and other stakeholders as deemed necessary by
    the SFM and develop a model ordinance that permits local
    jurisdictions to adopt a streamlined enforcement and
    administrative fine procedures (limited to civil fines)
    related to the possession of fireworks. The model ordinance
    is to include provisions for reimbursing the Office of the SFM
    for the costs associated with the disposal of seized
    fireworks.

    3)Provides the following remedies for violations related to
    possession of dangerous fireworks, except as to a person who
    holds and is operating within the scope of a valid license, as
    specified:

    a) A person who possesses a gross weight, including
    packaging, of less than 25 pounds of unaltered dangerous
    fireworks, as defined, is guilty of a public offense
    punishable by a fine of not less than $500 or more than
    $1,000, or by imprisonment in the county jail for up to one
    year, or both.
     
  11. Johnny.Blaze

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    b) Upon a second or subsequent conviction, a person shall
    be punished by a fine of not less than $1,000 or by
    imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year or
    both.

    c) A person who possesses a gross weight, including
    packaging, of not less than 25 pounds or more than 100
    pounds of unaltered dangerous fireworks, as defined, is
    guilty of a public offense, punishable by a fine of not
    less than $1,000 or more than $5,000, and by imprisonment
    in the county jail for up to one year.

    d) A person who possesses a gross weight, including
    packaging, of not less than 100 pounds or more than 5,000
    pounds of unaltered dangerous fireworks, as defined, is
    guilty of a public offense, punishable by a fine of not
    less than $5,000 or more than $10,000, and by imprisonment
    in the county jail for not exceeding one year, or by 16
    months, two or three years in the state prison.

    e) A person who possesses a gross weight, including
    packaging, of more than 5,000 pounds of unaltered dangerous
    fireworks, as defined, is guilty of a public offense,
    punishable by a fine of not less than $10,000 or more than
    $50,000, and by either imprisonment in the county jail for
    not exceeding one year or imprisonment in state prison.

    4)Provides increased subsequent fines up to $5,000 for a person
    who violates fireworks statutes by selling, giving, or
    delivering any dangerous fireworks to any person less than 18
    years of age, from the previous $500 to $1,000 fine limit.

    5)The SFM, in conjunction with the Department of Motor Vehicles,
    is to develop regulations and procedures to temporarily
    suspend the commercial motor vehicle license of a person who
    is operating a commercial motor vehicle while transporting
    unaltered and or dangerous fireworks, as defined, and having a
    gross weight including packaging, of 10,000 pounds or more.

    6)Provides that a driver of a commercial motor vehicle is not to
    operate a commercial motor vehicle for three years if the
    driver is convicted of transporting unaltered and or dangerous
    fireworks, and having a gross weight, including packaging, of
    10,000 pounds or more, as specified.
     
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