First new truck, need some input.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Slingingbullets, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    Not worth it.

    All he is going to do is defend his initial statement with what he feels is a convincing argument.

    What should be obvious to you and I is apparently difficult to understand.

    I'm probably in trouble just for voicing my opinion about it,.. LOL

    Hurst
     
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  3. KenworthGuyNH

    KenworthGuyNH Road Train Member

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    LOL.............it just don't pay sometimes.......anywho......you know what I'm sayin' and I know what YOU'RE sayin'.......
     
  4. vangtransport

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  5. Hurst

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  6. cnsper

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    I still stand by my first post to put in an 18 speed. Once you have driven one for a while you will understand what it means to have that 1/2 gear in the lower end. You could be cruising at optimum RPM or lugging the motor and the other option is to run at a higher rpm. Being able to drop from high range to low range with only the flip of a switch does wonders at all speeds for that little umph to get up the hill or dropping a little because of traffic.

    Now as a truck dealer, I know that I could move an 18 speed faster than a 13. The reason being is that it is a little overkill for those looking for a 10 speed but not enough for those looking for a heavy haul application. EVERY day that truck sits on the lot it costs money. All holding of inventory costs money because it ties up a certain amount that can not be out there making more. So if I was a dealer, I would give you more for an 18 speed because I can move it faster than a 13. The cost of inventory plays a big part in what the dealer will give you. We are not talking 5-10k difference but there is a difference. KBB can put any value they want on a truck but they can not tell you how long it will take you to sell it.

    I also see 18 speeds selling faster than 13 speeds in comparable trucks all the time. Like I said before, I do not even look at a truck unless it has an 18 speed.
     
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  7. vangtransport

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    In the end it's up to the OP what to buy, he's gotta be happy. I drove a 18 for over 1/2 million miles with 3.36 gears & your in the upper half around 17-20mph, you don't need 8 gears to get to 20mph, which is why those of us that have driven them say they never split the lower half. If the rest of the truck isn't spec'd & rated for HH then a 18 isn't needed either, there is allot more to a HH truck other than a 18 spd. So as a buyer I wouldn't pay more for a 18 spd because I know I don't need it on a 80k truck. As a owner I don't get into the habit of throwing money at something I don't need, I would take that money and put it to something useful such as a bunk heater, but that's me.
     
  8. Oscar the KW

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    My emphasis on the word "guide." It is only a "guide" to give a prospective buyer or seller an ESTIMATE as to the vehicles value, nothing more, nothing less. The TRUE value of anything is what someone is willing to pay or it, not what some "company" says.

    Now that we have that 100% clear, I trust that we can ALL move past this.
     
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  9. jpeters72155

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    Hello, I'm actually leaning heavily towards getting newer Freightliners due to CARB and also old equipment breaking down and I hadn't thought about resale value. Is there a huge difference in resale btwn FRT and KW? Can this be quanitified at all like saying: FTR will depreciate 20% more at the 3 year (or whatever year) mark than a KW?
     
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