First time owner operator (just getting started)

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Daycabdriver, Jun 29, 2021.

  1. Daycabdriver

    Daycabdriver Bobtail Member

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    So I just recently purchased my own tractor (1990 KW T800 daycab) and I want to start my trucking business. My brother says I can make good money with a flatbed, hualing used pallets and selling them. However, I'm not sure he can offer me more than a couple loads a week to start. At first I considered getting my DOT numbers and registering as a private carrier so that I don't need an MC number. Then I thought, "Do I realy want to limit myself to hauling my own property?" I plan to drive Intrastate and within 150 mile radius, just a local gig, so also logbook exempt. Trying to keep the red tape and fees minimal as I'm just starting out and capital is low. So my question is this. If I decide to get an MC number, get loads as I can locally, and then once or twice a week hual a load of pallets that I purchased or was given. Then get pulled over by DOT and not have a BOL for the pallets, what can I do to avoid issues? Can I load and haul my personal property on a commercial truck, even if I plan to sell them later? As I understand it. Not for hire means: I haul my property (pallets) from A to B and not need BOLs. But if the truck is not registered as a private carrier, how does that work? Yes I plan on making money buy selling the pallets, but the pallets are mine after they are loaded on my truck. Just trying to avoid issues with the DOT. As a beginner owner operator I have to get as many loads as I can get, especially if I'm only doing local (within 150 mile radius) , so any imput, suggestions, recommendations, on any aspect of starting out as an owner operator, especially a local one with a daycab, would be appreciated.
    Thank you fine folks in advance!
     
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    You won’t be hauling your your personal property if they are pallets, this is a commercial venture and your truck is not private.

    a bill of laden (bol) is the legal document that you create, not the shipper.

    all of that said, the guy down the road here has a pallet business, he buys, sells and repairs them. He started it with his oldest kid 10 years ago to give the kid something to do (the kid had an accident at 12, has a tbi which limits him) and now has three of his kids working and making good enough money that the youngest just bought land with cash and building a house - he is 19.
     
  4. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    You might want to get some GL insurance quotes before going any further.
     
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  5. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Red tape, lol.

    You are going into the trucking business Jack.

    All day everyday, red tape Every which Way.
     
  6. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

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    Just keep a stack of blank BoLs in your truck and fill one out for each load.
     
  7. mudflap77

    mudflap77 Heavy Load Member

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    You bought a 1990 truck. You are e log exempt anyway regardless of the 150 mile rule
     
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  8. Peter_Bilt

    Peter_Bilt Light Load Member

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    Pick up freight, deliver, repeat.
     
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  9. DirtyBob

    DirtyBob Road Train Member

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    150 mile exemption is way nicer to run than paper logs. Life is much easier when you can fit your whole month of logs on one piece of paper.
     
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  10. clausland

    clausland Road Train Member

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    I see it around here quite often, new guys figure, I'll just file as a "private carrier" trying to skirt the regs and expense that the rest of us have to follow. Some get away with it for a little while, but when, not if, they get caught the fines are heavy and they disappear like the new snow on a late Spring morning.

    Do yourself a favor and do it the right way. Yeah, there's a lot that needs to be navigated through, OOIDA can be a big help to you. Your biggest expense is gonna be commercial insurance, get ready for sticker shock, good luck...
     
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  11. shanman

    shanman Medium Load Member

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    well I learned something today. I always thought the shipper did the bol. As has always been the case in my almost 10 years of o/o. I’ve never given the shippers a bol they always gave me one.

    but google says that I’m supposed to give the shipper one. Weird.
     
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