Flatbed as a license endorsement
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Treefork, Nov 20, 2011.
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A TANK endorsement is required if the vehicle fits the definition of "Tank vehicle" in 383.5:
Tank vehicle means any commercial motor vehicle that is designed to transport any liquid or gaseous materials within a tank or tanks having an individual rated capacity of more than 119 gallons and an aggregate rated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more that is either permanently or temporarily attached to the vehicle or the chassis. A commercial motor vehicle transporting an empty storage container tank, not designed for transportation, with a rated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more that is temporarily attached to a flatbed trailer is not considered a tank vehicle.
If the tank is "designed to transport" liquids or gases and has a capacity of over 1000 gallons it meets the definition. The IM Intermodal Portable Tank in 07-379Pete's first picture certainly fits the definition and the drive needs a tank endorsement whether the tank is loaded or empty.
07-379Pete's second picture shows a storage tank, not designed to transport liquids or gases, but designed to be used for storage only. A tank endorsement is NOT required for these tanks (383.93 interpretations question 11)volvodriver01, 07-379Pete and Skunk_Truck_2590 Thank this. -
Alabama has the coil license. The new endorsement could be a possibility sometime in the future. I think each state will have their license, or certificate requirements before the FEDs would put their nose in it. More money to each individual state.
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Diesel Dave and Mommas_money_maker Thank this.
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If it would mean a driver would have to take an extra test just to prove the driver has more knowledge of securement, then good...but the negative side would be, the government would want, what, 150 bucks to put a new decal on your CDL..if it would keep things like this from happening.....http://www.wlky.com/news/22219231/detail.html
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Leave the government out of it. The shipper has a moral and I would think some sort of legal obligation to ensure the loads are secured properly. I know of one company in particular when hauling pipe they dont let you stand anywhere near the load and gutwrap it for you and make sure you have pipe stakes. They use their own dunnage also. Tenaris in Blytheville, AR. As much as I dont like having no real control over that part of the load process, I think more companies should maybe follow this example when loading coils, pipe. I also think since there are several ways to strap or chain a load that there should be at least some form of a publication with good examples in it (pictures and steps for dummies). I (and I know others) that haul a lot of specialty pieces that need good common sense and just plain experience to get it done and there isnt an example to follow but good flatbedders always have friends to call and at least maybe get some advice. An endorsement will never teach something like that and neither will a book with pics.
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Thanks for the answer and now my next question is, aint this kind of a throw back to the ICC days of regulation? There both tanks and one driver has to have an "N" endorsement while the other driver dont. In the ICC days one company could haul say swing meat into another trucking companys area yet they could not haul boxed meat, meat is meat, tanks are tanks, IMO.
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So maybe your right! The guys who do what the individual states require are the real winners.Mommas_money_maker and volvodriver01 Thank this.
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