Flatbed tractor questions

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by NYCgorilla, Nov 24, 2020.

  1. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    Not really. Got my info from YouTube and a lunch counter!
     
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  3. singlescrewshaker

    singlescrewshaker Road Train Member

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    :bootyshake::boxing::bootyshake:

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  4. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    Ok, I seen some 2000/01 dedec4 non wastegate motors eat turbos. 90% in volvos. Extended oil changes were my opinion of the issue.

    I really liked the 470/475 Dedec3 except some had a wrist pin problem, and ate cams. Again my non scientific conclusion was extended oil changes would window the block.

    1999/2000 11.1's had a big cam problem, normally under warranty and went flat.

    These things happen. Everyone has issues. Cat had some C models with junk wrist pins, equal window. E models that didn't get the sand from casting washed out, equal windows. Cummins had the 444 nightmare till people aftermarket fixed the issue. Then most all early ISX bucket of hot potato! Mercedes was just garbage, i here the PacCar is a nutless wonder unimpressive iron.

    I can do this all day. They all built lemons at one point.
     
  5. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    I would love a new shiny truck. Old ones take work. Bet I have spent 100k plus on my bucket of bolts. I'm handy, but only been on a hook to go to a dyno to break in a new motor, I even drove the hook. Its not for everyone. I can not justify a new truck or payment till they reach 14/15mpg. Then I might need to be looking.

    Luv old Iron, but I'm hear to profit.
     
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  6. singlescrewshaker

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    There's one engine I think we can all agree never produced a lemon, & had a hugely successful run.. The 2011-12 Maxforce. Possibly the best motor ever built. Shame it had such a short production run.. :rolleyes:

    If only I could get my paws on one, I'd be at your shop for a repower tomorrow.. :cool:
     
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  7. NYCgorilla

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    Speaking of Detroits, I was looking into this one for a while.

    It came from a bankrupted oilfield operation. 100k original miles.

    I'm guessing the 8LL wouldn't work too well here.
     

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  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    :laughing3:

    I was scratching my head here for a second wondering if you were serious.
     
  9. NYCgorilla

    NYCgorilla Light Load Member

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    because of your suggestions I went down a rabbit hole one night looking through every single Mack on truckpaper.


    There were some nice R models on there, but some of the transmission choices were strange.

    Five speeds, eight speeds... 12 speeds.


    And everything had a camel back suspension.


    I didn't know what to think about them.


    There's even an r model sleeper floating around
     

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  10. Cat sdp

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    12 speed mack is ok.... camelback isn’t for regional work anymore. That’s all we had back in the day. But now you want air ride. Unless you got a back of titanium.........
     
  11. Dino soar

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    First thing is in my opinion never ever ever under any circumstances consider a truck that is not a sleeper.

    You have more room it's more comfortable you can carry your gear tools... and you can sleep in and whether that's staying out or whether it's taking a nap whatever.

    250 MI it's not very far. If you were going to be driving steadily 10 and 11 hours a day then the fuel mileage is a much larger issue.

    Myself I'm generally within a hundred and fifty miles and I tend to stay out. For me it works out better that I find loads that pay more that are here there and I suppose I could go home but it just works better for me to stay on the road and get home not every day. Sometimes it's harder to really make money and be home every day let me put it that way.

    It is true what the gentleman said about the Detroit series 60 they were very good engine. They had their issues but of the electronic engines they probably were the best along with the n14.

    Unfortunately electronic engines are mechanical engines that have electronic garbage put on them that sometimes you do have to go to the dealer and sometimes a speed sensor will leave you on the side of the road doing 25 miles an hour until you can find a dealer that you can throw money at to fix it... Some guys have electrical Gremlins and they do spend quite a bit of money on that.

    It seems to me that when a pre EGR computerized engine has problems $5,000 is not uncommon or more to search for and find problems and go to shop to shop.

    As far as fuel mileage if you're really concerned about that you need an Aero Truck. Aerodynamics play a huge part in fuel mileage.

    And if you did find something with a big cam 450 - 500 horsepower is not unreasonable.

    And you need someone that knows those engines.

    But the little bit more that you spend in fuel you would certainly make up with reliability if you have a good one.

    Not telling you what to do because it may be difficult to find something from that era that works for you, but one emission problem you could rebuild the big cam several times.

    I myself would not trade mine for anything.
     
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