Flats, Refers, or Vans ect..which is best for O/O?

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  1. bullhaulerswife

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    Well, the money is good pulling a bull wagon. But its a trade off. LOL You wind up doing wash outs at least twice a week, and theres always the danger of a rouge cow coming after you, or three. :biggrin_2559: Hubby got trampled last week by some skiddish feeders. He was a hurting unit. Then you get one that gets loose in someones pasture, that should have gone into a receiving pen, and you have to go find it. Special loads will require you to have a fresh was out and either wood chips or straw put in the bottom of the trailer.

    The up side is, your waiting on loading and unloading isn't near as long as you deal with at a shipper/receivers. There was only one time that he had to wait so much time in the heat to unload, that he actually lost a cow, but it is very rare.

    But I can tell you that he has never hauled a load for less than $2.20/mile, and thats the low end and that was when he first started hauling. Most loads average more like 2.60-2.70 after the brokers cut.
     
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    1st question - Generaly speaking, where does one go to get a bull wagon washed out? I know I've never seen one done at the blue beacon.

    2nd question - What is the average length of haul for that $2.60 - $2.70 CPM?

    3rd question - Does the hubby haul only brokered loads and get the $2.70 CPM?

    4th question - How much time is typicaly spent loading/unloading, and how quick are the recievers at in getting hubby unloaded upon arrivale? Gotta be MUCH faster than the typical grocery wharewhorehouse that seemingly does'nt even want their goods that get delivered to them. Great thread!

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  3. Redwolf

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    Also, where are the majority of the frieght lanes for bull haulers? I live in the Southern part of Illinois and have a couple of chicken plants within 150 miles, but no beef processors that I know of anyway.
     
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    1. Well, where we are, there are many wash outs. Some are on the honor system out here. Meaning you wash out yourself, and you leave a check in the box attached to a pole. You need a good rain suit, if you are going to do it yourself. Not a cheap dollar store one, but a GOOD one. LOL We have a wash out here in town, so at the end of the week, he drops the trailer at the wash out, and brings the truck home. And inside wash out will cost between $45-90/ depending on where your getting it done and how sterile the trailer has to be.

    2. Hubby doesn't run many loads over 600 miles. So most of them are reasonable to get there the same day. Also, he made it clear to the broker that he would not run illegal or without his 10 hour break. Some brokers don't care if you get sleep. Also, some places will try to load you real heavy. So you have to watch that. On the up side, most DOT don't want to craw under your wagon. :biggrin_2559: We have special permits that allow him to haul in certain states at 90,000.

    3. Yes, he only hauls brokered loads and gets the $2.70/mile. Meaning the broker has already taken his cut, and the truck gets the $2.70. Most of these loads are contracted by the broker. Meaning, the slaughter house calls and tells him where the load is, and he tells them he will have a truck there.

    4. This all depends on the amount of trucks in front of him when he arrives. But the wait time is NOTHING compared to reefer/van loads. Its much quicker with live loads. The longer those cattle are on the truck, the more chance of loosing one or two. But you also have to stop every 100 miles or so and get any that are laying down, to stand back up. Its a dirty job, and he has a box on the outside of the truck that contains all his clothes for crawling up or in the trailer.

    Well, hubby runs mostly SD, IA, NE, KS, OK, TX, MO, CO & WY.

    You should be able to find IL loads, you might have to look a bit.

    We have been told that hogs pay better than cattle, but he's really not wanting to try hogs. Cattle is bad enough. LOL
     
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    Thanks BHsW. This thread is far more interesting than delivering cheese to the places I go to.

    Y'all must have your own authority I take it?
     
  6. Working Class Patriot

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    So your saying up to 600 miles # $2.70 per Mile. That's $1620, that's what my ten wheel gets in 21 hours not bad plus, I would driven twice mileage for those hours. Not bad, although the only cows I've herded was when a dairy man's gate broke and his herd was going down the road I used to take to work. I more or less used my truck to nudge them back inside the dairy.
     
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    $3.50+ a loaded mile. And if you are hauling off of ranches expect to haul heavy (I've seen as much as 20,000 over) and mentioning your logbook is good for a good belly :biggrin_25523: :biggrin_25523: :biggrin_25523: :biggrin_25523: from the rancher. Legal trucking is only a suggestion to many of them.
    LONG days and short nights are the norm! If you are running in that loop you will get run ragged. Take your vitamins. :D


    I think what Bullhaulerswife's husband does is a lot different where most of his runs are under 600 miles one way allowing him to break 10 hrs before his next load.
     
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    You had your own trailer and your own accounts right? I think that, that's where there is such a big difference in what you used to do and what hubby does now. And you are right, they will run you ragged, if you let them. Hubby has talked to many other bull haulers, and they say that they don't get much sleep.

    Pete, yes, we have our own authority, we haul the brokers trailer.
     
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    yup.............
     
  10. bullhaulerswife

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    I thought thats what you had told me. LOL Yeah, hubby just got lucky with the broker and the fact that he would listen to him. There are drivers that will do the Montana runs, but the broker knows better than to ask my hubby. :biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559:

    Those runs are for the young pups.:biggrin_25523: