floating gears

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 7060, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. king Q

    king Q Road Train Member

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    Most European and some Japanese trucks use synchronized transmissions in class 8 trucks.The ones we use here alongside our American trucks at 124500 lbs have synchronized 16 or 14 sp boxes that can not succesfully be floated because of shock absorber type attachments to limit speed of shift to avoid burning the synchros. The clutches are all power assisted so they cause no crab like developments in the left leg.
     
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  3. walstib

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    That mental image made me LMAO!!!
     
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  4. BNR32

    BNR32 Heavy Load Member

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    i dont know i got an 07 volvo and i am all for double clutching but in this truck i can shift way smoother if i float. i clutch in to nuetral to downshift but even then it still works better to float it in from there. still trying to get used to the thing!

    all i have driven is freightliners and i always double clutched and it worked great. but when i got into this i had never even tried to float a gear then i was getting frustrated with sloppy shifts and floated one and it just worked, been doing it ever since.
    i try to clutch them every now and then but lets just say i think im doing more damage to it than i could possibly be when floating lmao. i can do it, its just never as smooth as i like my shifts to be.
     
  5. 7060

    7060 Light Load Member

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    The dealer was saying something about these transmissions being harder to double clutch, im not real sure what he was talking about. The adjuster on the clutch has been moved to where you have about an inch of travel before the trans. brake engages. I figured I would take a test at one of those all day courses that let you use there automatic trucks, so that the clutch wouldnt have to be adjusted. I don't have my cdl yet, but its the family farms truck, so I can haul our own grain without a cdl so im told. By the way what rpm should I be shifting at once up to speed?
     
  6. ChromeDome

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    At least the newer equipment does not get to bucking if you mess up like the old stuff did.
    I remember the old cabover that I started in. Back before Air was used in suspensions.
    If you got on it fast and backed off the whole truck would start bucking like a bronco. Only way to get it to stop was to get into the throttle nice and smooth till it calmed down.
    Scared the heck out of me the first time.
    At least I do not think newer equipment will do that anymore. I don't have the guts to try and find out lol.
     
  7. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Chrome...are you reminiscing about an old truck...or an old girlfriend?:biggrin_25514: :biggrin_25525: :biggrin_2559:
     
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  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    As long as you are on the property of the farm, and not on a public roadway, you don't need a license!

    RPM for proper shifting? Well, climbing an incline with a good amount of weight, run the RPM's up to about 1500-1600, going down an incline with weight 1200-1400, and on level surface 1100-1300 should do fine.
     
  9. 7060

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    This is what the missouri dmv farm truck book said, [FONT=Frutiger-Roman][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]
    No CDL is required if ​
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    [/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Bold][FONT=Frutiger-Bold]all [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]of the following conditions are met:

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    [/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]A farmer transports his/her own agricultural products, farm machinery,
    farm supplies to or from their farm. (If the goods are not for farm use or
    belong to someone other than the farmer, a CDL is required), and

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    [/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]The move is within 150 miles of the farmer s farm, and

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    [/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]The driver is a farmer, family member of the farmer or an employee of
    the farm, operating a CMV for farm use, and

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    [/FONT][FONT=Frutiger-Roman][FONT=Frutiger-Roman]The load does not have to be placarded for hazardous materials.

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    If a CDL is not required, then all farm employees who drive a farm truck must​
    have at least a Missouri Class E (For-Hire) driver s license.

    Im going to take my written part when I get a chance, but from what I got out of this I didn't actually need a CDL to haul our own equipment or grain. Is this right?
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  10. thedrifter

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    well I was taught buy an O/O he wouldn't let me double clutch. I just graduated from a truck school and they wanted the driver to use the clutch. It wasn't hard to learn. But I did have to learn to do it.
     
  11. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    I would have to say you are right...as long as you follow and qualify to EVERY aspect of the regs. Now if the grain you are hauling is pre-sold and not going to a cooperative for the sale, then you would if the grain is pre-sold. by that I mean that the product is technically someone else's goods and you are delivering the goods for them.

    I grew up in NV and worked a cattle ranch all my "youthful" years...we could load the beef, and move the trailer to the main house for the CDL haulers to take them to market on the public highway, we could only drive on the property. So each state has their own specific guidelines to these differences.

    Pay close attention to the highlighted section I changed to red!

    Get your CDL, and you don't have any worries what-so-ever!:biggrin_25514:
     
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