FMCSA Issues Clarifying Regulatory Guidance for Personal Conveyance

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by CousinVinny, May 31, 2018.

  1. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Well that's a real nice soap box you have.
    But you still haven't presented one logical sentence to counter my argument.
    And my argument is for the drivers, that are now going to get F in the ### seventeen ways to Sunday, because of this ammendment.

    Personal responsibility, blah, blah, that's knowing your limits.

    I could drive a 1,000 miles safely, some people can't go a 100. Does that make me irresponsible because I'm a strong player?
     
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  3. Scooter Jones

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    Poor drivers. The big bad evil company gonna take advantage of them? Okay, Dave. You win.

    All drivers, beware! Because of the clarification of the personal conveyance rule, you will be F in ### seventeen ways to Sunday! In fact, you might as well guit your trucking job now, or if you're considering becoming a trucker, don't do it! LOL
     
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  4. Gunner75

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    How else does anyone cover their ###? You take pictures, keep notations of phone calls to the truck stops and who you spoke with about parking. Its not that hard.
     
  5. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Bingo. First sentence. Mega's won't care.
    Like have they ever cared about the driver?

    ATA sure is quiet as a church mouse on this aren't they?
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    We - my legal advisor and I - were discussing this issue this afternoon and one thing he mentioned is if PC is used and there is an accident, the company can let the driver hang out to take the heat.

    Also a couple things.

    If we are talking about laden PC, I am betting insurance companies will start to take notice and push the FMCSA to either define it without a laden PC or eliminate it altogether.

    States also do not have to accept this, they have to say that they accept the guidance, it isn't cut and dry because the states are in control.
     
  7. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    So you stop. Take pictures of the entire truck stop, then proceed?
    Or you take the word of the girl in Flying J that can't even keep the coffee pot filled up?
    Truck stops would never take on that liability either.
    When Little Debbie obliterates a van full of people while PCing to the next stop down the line, you think the truck stop is gonna vouch for her?
     
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  8. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Like I said, you don't think things through.
    Wise man once said "Think before you speak."
    You probably never heard that one.
     
  9. DSK333

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    This is just in time for the next Blitz. Apparently, they're focusing mainly on HOS this year too. This ought to be very interesting.
     
  10. driverdriver

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    As already stated by me and several others there was 8m sure a lot of money thrown at this to get this clarification.
    Shippers/ Receivers and companies.

    This does nothing but help the f'd up s and r's continue to load and unload when ever they feel like getting to ya without repercussions.
    Disguised as a helping hand to the drivers.
    Brilliant actually.
     
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  11. Dave_in_AZ

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    I don't see it as being all that brilliantly disguised.
    What I do see, glaring, anyone that does this is, has now opened themselves up to bear's discretion, and you know that's not gonna go in your favor.

    I mean since e log came out, violations plummeted, now guys are getting cited for mud flaps sailing, and marker lights.

    Now you're gonna hand the guy a reason to fail you and justify his existence.
     
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