FMCSA Operating Status: Not Authorized

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  1. Tacomatrd99

    Tacomatrd99 Bobtail Member

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    Hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I met with this small tanker company for local work, that hauls used cooking oil to the refineries to be changed to bio diesel. Gentleman seems very sincere, pay is good (actually higher than expected), he’s explained that he had a company but due to his divorce, he’s started up under a new name. I’ve verbally accepted the position, but last night, I started reading a post on here about checking the CSA scores of a company before going to work for them. Well, I searched them, and it’s coming up Not Authorized, under both names. It shows that both names were active for a while and the newer name was active until last month. In digging deeper, it says “Involuntary Revocation”. Hoping maybe there is an error somewhere, but getting the feeling it was too good to be true. Is it possible that he doesn’t need “Authorization” since it’s non-regulated freight being hauled (per him, it’s not regulated, I haven’t questioned him about the “Not Authorized” status yet. I wanted to do some homework first (although I wished I had thought to check the FMCSA site before last night.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    No such thing as non-regulated freight. He's had his authority pulled twice now.

    Don't walk away, run. All working for him will do is destroy your cdl.

    Remember, sociopaths seem sincere because they have no empathy.

    One last thing to chew on. If he flounts all the laws that regulate his company, what makes you think he will pay attention to other annoying laws like paying you?
     
  4. Ridgeline

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    Local work does NOT need an authority to run.
     
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  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Local "intrastate" carriers may not need authority to operate, however from THIS news release it appears that they can shut a local carrier down. For the record though in THIS release they don't use the word "intrastate". This is one example of why I get so dang angry at the FMCSA, they have a tendency to do crap like this. Is this an oversight because of different writers or is this difference because of something not made public. I guess we will never know.
     
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  6. x1Heavy

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    When we did local work, we could do it with just the state tags, registration on that truck under a tax ID for taxes each year to company for cash. There was none of that DOT, FMCSA etc UNLESS they showed up to inspect the truck, which they did from time to time when we fired a disgruntled driver who called in the wolves based on actual or imagined equipment defects.
     
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  7. Ridgeline

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    Moose, The first is a carrier registered as an Interstate carrier so the FMCSA's revoking the grant of an authority to run interstate was correct. The second has to do with the CDL which the feds can suspend or take the license away from the person.
     
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  8. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Yes I know. I saw that. However this was not my main point. In one example they are regulating intrastate and another not doing so. So If I am reading this right that driver is free to operate a CMV local? See my point?
     
  9. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    In that 2nd FMCSA news release they said this.
    If the FMCSA were not regulating the actual CDL it would seem to me that they would NOT have added those last 3 words. Then we see this from my first link.
    These kinds of comments are confusing and leave people wondering just what is the FMCSA definition of the words interstate and intrastate. Remember the FMCSA is a regulatory agency. They can not use general terms when shutting down a carrier or driver.
     
  10. justa_driver

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    I was thinking even local operations had to have a U.S. D.O.T. number, which is different to the MC number? I could be wrong? True, the "Not Authorized" could mean they are not authorized for Interstate Commerce. Go to the Secretary of States website where the company is based and run the company to see if they are licensed by the state to operate?
     
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  11. bigguns

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    To me this is a good example of bureaucratic idiocracy. Someone moving “regulated” commodities interstate is required to file a BOC3. However if you haul exempt commodities interstate you don’t need to file a BOC 3.
     
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