For the 1st Time in my Trucking Career, I'm admit I'm scared a bit.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Lucastookis, Mar 9, 2022.

  1. Lucastookis

    Lucastookis Bobtail Member

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    I've always been a bigtime numbers guy. I use to teach Math in High School before trucking and I have a Math Degree. The Degree has helped me be a very successful O/O and have a comfortable life. One of the things I go by is the Difference when Substracting Spot Rates from Fuel Rates.. My maintenance and insurance are always consistent, because I have a top line purchase plan/maintenance plan that keeps my maintence rates under 18,000 dollars per year EVERY year, so for me, it's all about
    Fuel Rates-Spot Rates
    When the number is 2 or less. I make lots of money. For example, if Diesel is 3.50 per gallon and Spot Rates are 1.50 per gallon, I go ok, put about 70 grand in my pocket after taxes are paid every year if the difference is 2. If the difference is 1, the money I put in my pocket double to about 140 grand, for example, Fuel Rates and 3:50 and Spot Rates at 2.50 which leaves 1.

    If the difference goes above 3, I worry. For example, Fuel Rates at 6 per gallon and Spot Rates at 3. That's an awesome Spot rate for dry van and if we had rates at 3 bucks per mile regularily, we would take it, but.....not with diesel at 6 per gallon. That difference is 3. 6 per gallon- 3 dollar spot rate =3. That's not good. I'm still able to do ok because the dry van rates are 3, and 100,000 miles x 3 =300,000 before I start paying expensed, so it's still doable. Here's the worry though. Spot rates appear to be slightly falling. I'm hopeful it was jus the February thing and come April, they pick up like they do on most years, but I'm telling ya guys, it's bad news if Diesel starts averaging 6:50 and Spot Rates drop to 2.50. If that happens, many O/O's are going out of business I will still be ok, but probably only bring home 40,000 after taxes for the year.
     
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  3. Mike250rs

    Mike250rs Heavy Load Member

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    spot rates will go back up as these new o/o paying 20% interest on their 10 y/o $100k truck can no longer run for lower rates and give up.
     
  4. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    Power only spot rates are about 1.70 per mile at the moment. So it’s about to go Boom.
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    We again are so saturated with capacity that rates can’t go up, we needed a hard economical adjustment to being capacity back down. I know they are screaming about lack of truck drivers and all that political garbage but that’s just distractions.

    when trucks hit the market and the prices are going down, then we should see the rates go back up.
     
  6. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    Eventually that will happen but not without a lot of pain felt by everybody in the short and medium term. It's bad news for everybody...for some it might just be worse than others.
     
  7. larry2903

    larry2903 Heavy Load Member

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    How long have you had your trucking career and what year model is your truck?
     
  8. Power Meister

    Power Meister Light Load Member

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    $3 / mile (fuel cost is included in the $3) is needed.
     
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