First off Kenly TA is nothing like Wolcott.
Second off a simple google search tells you all about them.
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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by zmster2033, Jul 16, 2018.
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The main benefit to the KR version (IMO) is the instant mpg value is smoothed over an 8 second interval versus 1 second on the non-KR model, to make it more useful and easier to follow. Otherwise more or less the same thing.
I have the KR version bought over the counter at the Louisville show some years ago. The 4 values I run all the time are Instant mpg, avg mpg, boost psi, and water temp.
Also beware if you're running an ELD, you'll need a y-connector for the diagnostic port if your ELD didn't already come with one.blairandgretchen, x1Heavy and zmster2033 Thank this. -
Got the Scan Gauge installed, and still working through the setup. It seems like it will be a pretty nifty tool. I keep a keen eye on it while driving to compare fuel mileage with various driving techniques.
Pulled another grade today. Check engine light came on after pulling the first 4-5 miles of it and then the engine shut off started flashing (similar to last time). I noticed the engine oil temperature gauge in the truck did get up to around 250 degrees while the water temperature gauge hung around 200 degrees. Based on these numbers, does it seem the culprit would be the oil cooler/oil cooler thermostat? Motor is an N14. Per Cummins, they advised they would start with the cooling system (radiator and the works) vs. the engine oil cooler. Coolant and oil do not appear to be mixing. Per Keep Truckin' ELD, code is PID-175 (Engine Oil Temperature). Prior to the CEL coming on, the truck seems to pull great. The truck is in a gear where it will pull up the grade without having to be matted to the floor. I am keeping the RPM's around 1500 when climbing. Thoughts?blairandgretchen Thanks this. -
It could be the cooler stopped up or thermostat.
Do you have a pyro? If you have high egt's that will heat the oil up also.blairandgretchen and zmster2033 Thank this. -
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With 200 degree water temp I doubt that's the cause,but you never know.
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Mr Pyro gets too hot. Say 1400 F. (You have a label with a limiting temperature and length of time) you cannot exceed this more than 5 minutes. Let's say the mountain you are on took 30 minutes to the top.
Mr Pyro is really hot now, creeping around 1500-1550 which is pretty much all it will give you on the gauge dial.
It heats the engine something fierce.
Your engine oil temperature starts to rise to at least 230 and refuses to stop rising slowly.
After a short time your engine pressure begins to drop. As the engine oil rises, it gets thinner and less effective. Therefore it begins to churn at the engine oil pump. And boom pressure begins to fall maybe half. (Which is not good, but not fatal yet....)
Then your Transmission temperature begins to rise, if it has not already due to the steep mountain pull. Your Drive axles, each one would follow the transmission temps in rising. All three have been hot during the pull. But your Mr Pyro is the one who screams ENOUGH IS ENOUGH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD> OW! Your Trans, both drive axles will begin a slow rise beyond normal int the oil temps marching upwards, always a little less than engine oil temp.
Especially if you have a oil cooler tied to your radiator coolant for the transmission, you will NOW see a increase in your coolant temperature. It's already pretty warm from the mountain pull. Now that your transmission needs a little more cooling, which your coolant and radiator can no longer give it's going to get hotter in the radiator.
At some point around 225 or so your truck probably will complain that it's just way too hot everywhere.
Hopefully you made the mountain and are drifting down the other side. Emphasis on drifting. Your pyro should cool to about 800 and hold. Your engine oil pressure should start returning to normal Your drive axles will cool first. Followed by the transmission temps then finally your engine oil temps will start cooling. Your engine oil pressure should start improving. THEN your coolant temp should start cooling below 215. Your engine fan needs to be on full time.
Shut off as much as you can electric wise, this lowers the load on your alternator, and thus lowers the load imposed on the engine belt.
When you are drifting, be slow enough that gravity does not cause you to speed up. Much. Have her in a light 1300 jacobs braking. She will do a sort of brapith braphith braph brapith.. NOT the full RPM maxed jacobs braking with the ringing bell from your valves or pistons. ( am a deaf man, but I can sure hear those bells when the jacobs is working really hard really fast.)Diesel Dave, 86scotty and zmster2033 Thank this. -
My vote is to change the oil cooler thermostat. Had a fld120 that did the same thing as you are having. Red top N14.
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