Fsc. Is my boss just a liar!?

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  1. CamryXSE

    CamryXSE Bobtail Member

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    This is a text conversation I had with my boss. He's a small fleet owner. I was an O/O 12 years ago and am now a 1099 driver. We pull CH Robinson; Landstar; JB Hunt; Sunset Logistics, etc.

    He doesn't have to talk to me about what he makes but if he's going to complain about cheap freight, don't just lie about fsc!?

    Boss: Everything slowed down for some reason, there is no loads and whats on market it is really cheap and the fuel prices I dont have to mention that

    Me: What about fuel prices? You should be making a killing on the surcharge?

    Anyway, I don't ask you to force anything. I'm home, I can sit here all weekend if need be.

    Boss: There is no fuel surcharge for us.

    Me: What!? We used to look forward to high fuel prices...

    Boss: LOL used to be like that, not anymore, since the fuel went up to $5 and over, they dropped the prices of transport for 30%
     
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  3. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Yeah hes lying or just dumb, if fsc is built into the rate, he needs to back it out, and its true that depending on the freight and lanes that rates have dropped, but hes just not that good at his job in finding freight. 3$ a mile+ is still pretty easy to find
     
  4. CamryXSE

    CamryXSE Bobtail Member

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    Thank you. After working for him a year, I wonder if I'm a person or just an expense.

    See, he wants to make as much as he can and pay me as little as he can. I get it, that's business.

    I would not just lie to someone to make them think I'm suffering to pay them. I thought after a year he'd be a little more honest.
     
  5. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Bear in mind i also presented the possibility that hes just dumb, this is an often overlooked thing, i know MANY people that arent malicious, they just seem like it through idiocy
     
  6. 062

    062 Road Train Member

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    I don’t know anyone that breaks out a fsc on broker loads. A fsc is more important for contract freight.
     
  7. Mike250rs

    Mike250rs Heavy Load Member

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    He may also have contracted rates... so when fuel goes nuts and it was built into the rate, his margins shrink to cover the same lanes.

    So yes, there may not be fuel surcharge. because it was folded into the rate, that has now dropped.
     
  8. larry2903

    larry2903 Heavy Load Member

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    You should realize that he probably is being dishonest, he’s lying to the IRS by paying you as a 1099 contractor.
     
  9. Mike250rs

    Mike250rs Heavy Load Member

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    when posted as a brokered load no, when the load was first contracted between company X and Y, fsc was part of it.

    So company X commits to said lane from company Y at rate N, then cant cover lane L internally.. Company X now posts L* on load board for amount Z hoping to still make a margin percentage of D.
     
  10. bamanation

    bamanation Medium Load Member

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    Spot market O/O’s don’t get fuel surcharges like contract freight does. Your fuel cost as all other cost should be built into the rate your negotiating for. So technically he’s not lying to you. He should be selling his truck service better if he’s below $3 a mile or move to a better market.
     
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  11. CamryXSE

    CamryXSE Bobtail Member

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    No, we've had our rounds. He will not talk to me about rates or revenue except the occasional complaint. He'll never say, 'oh, that load paid good!' Not dumb.

    The less I make the more he makes. But, he also knows he has to pay me enough to keep me.
     
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