Fuel cost in the future

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by GasHauler, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I get these bulletins about the gasoline and diesel business and today they had a very interesting article about what they call "up against the blend wall". There's committees going back and forth with the EPA to allow and not allow the blend of ethanol to go from 10% by volume to 15% by 2015. The interesting part is when a study was done by NERA ( a economic consulting company that is global) says with this new mandates that gasoline may increase by 30% but DIESEL may INCREASE by 300%. Of course we all know that something that's early in this type of staging may or may not happen. But if I were an O/O I sure would be looking at my business plan and putting into place what if. You can research this type of work by first starting with the EPA. The biggest complaint is older cars where damage may occur if running any blend over 10%.

    Would a increase in cost that high amount with diesel put anyone under? What the dangerous part is if any news like this gets out to the public then the futures traders will have cover to raise the price. Of course they will have the backing from the oil companies but those are the people that control the price. I just thought it might help some O/O with future planning.
     
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  3. Frenzy

    Frenzy Medium Load Member

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    It really doesn't matter to me what the price of fuel is, the FSC takes care of any changes. I am far more worried about VMT's being widely adapted.
     
  4. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    I don't discount large increases in future energy costs; it's obvious that the days of cheap energy are behind us. The real question is can our economy (and for that matter the world's overall economy) withstand that kind of economic shock- without going into a tailspin? FSC should cover our costs, but we still need abundant freight to haul.
     
  5. G/MAN

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    The economy can't take a 300% rate increase. That would put the pump price at around $12/gallon. When diesel got up to $5/gallon, the economy took a nose dive. Even now when diesel is under $4/gallon in most places, the economy is struggling. There are still areas where freight is either very soft or non existent, or so it seems. For the trucking industry to absorb $12/gallon fuel, rates would need to triple. That in itself would kill the economy. In fact, the economy would be killed long before fuel got to $12/gallon. The EPA needs to be dissolved. We don't need it. Many of the species that the EPA said were extinct have later found to be abundant, such as the Tennessee Snail Darter. Ethanol can and does damage engines at 10%. It would be much worse at 30%.
     
  6. GasHauler

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    It is over a widespread period of time. I think it goes up to 2022. Even so I can not understand why the diesel would get hit so much different than gasoline. Especially when the rate hikes for gasoline are dealing with additional cost of ethanol where diesel doesn't even use ethanol. To me it's just dangerous to put a report out like that when I believe there are just hoping for increase to line their pockets
     
  7. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    I wholeheartedly agree, they have an axe to throat of any business or monetary based business/project & care very little for the consequences associated. Their agenda is out of control.

    As well, can you imagine the cost of food products?
     
  8. G/MAN

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    People could not afford to buy food or have enough money to buy fuel to get to work.
     
  9. okiedokie

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    @ some point in the near future of the Industrial Revolution the use of fossial fuels will have to be replaced with other energy sources. Otherwise our Economic platform will disintegrate. There's only so much natural resource. Once it's gone or inaccessible civilizations collapse. Seems like mankind is nearsighted to it's own demise.
     
  10. ironpony

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    At Herculanium, the folks weren't worried until the pyroclastic cloud coming down Vesuvius was upon them. Nothing different here...

    It's "What Me Worry" until the oil pump runs dry. That price forecast is a recognition of world demand for oil totally outstripping supply. The much larger increase of the price of diesel is most likely reflective of the much larger world demand for that fuel over the demand for gasoline.
     
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  11. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    Im all for fossil fuels being priced so ridiculously high that people are forced to adapt. Saudi Arabia gets 80% (or more) of their food from the U.S. they cant do anything about that, we have the ability to turn corn (grown in the USA) into gas, and soybeans (grown in the USA) into diesel. We need higher fuel prices to get to 100% American independence. Saudi Arabia will go broke, AND they will STARVE when they cant afford to buy food from us. They deserve everything they will be getting in 20 years. That is how we win the war on terrorism.
     
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