Alright. You won.
A single drive with a dead axle is considered as tandem, and has the same weight limit. Yes, the differential lock very much needed, also the separate airbag valve. And the off road is a different animal. I am talking about highway operation, and a little yard work.
fuel-mileage, why not 6x2 trucks..??
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by fland, Aug 30, 2012.
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44,000 kgs is the norm here on 6 axles, we have reduced to 40,000 kgs on 5 axles. Yup 315's are the norm for singles but 385 super singles are very popular on lift axles aswell as steers.
We are allowed heavier weights on axles here so you'll have to do the maths on which configuration is most suitable for your type trucks and regulations, Centre lifts are fine but have poor traction, rear lifts have superior traction even compared to 6x4's, it's all down to weight distribution and the axle must be able to dump all the air, they don't use anything else in Nordic countries and even the 6x4 sometimes has a lifting rear drive to increase traction.
We run single wheels or supersingles on our tags to save weight and drag, you also will have a lighter axle, a diff less and a short prop less. We are running r620 scanias with both 6x2 and 6x4 configurations and the fuel difference is 1mpg. When the axle is down it is no different to a 6x4 and the fifth wheel can be positioned anywhere.
Trailer clearance was an issue with older trailers with short necks on the chassis, you need to slide the fifth wheel back to accommodate them, newer trailers generally aren't an issue and your chassisless boxes def won't be an issue , our trailers run with a kingpin approx 6 feet from the front of the trailer and often fridge units are no more than 18 inches approx from the back of the cab and I've never seen them hit the cab even going up steep ramps on ferries. On low profile trucks with low fifth wheels often a smaller tyre is fitted to the tag for extra clearance but generally isn't a problem.
A weight shifting device is pretty standard here and is a good job but you'll also need to take all the weight off the tag too.
A centre lift would work on your tractors as the fifth wheel is positioned just like a 6x4 but they do suffer from traction problems but for normal highway work they are fine -
True 4 wheel trucks are rubbish off road and so are mid lifts but place the fifth wheel behind the drive and the difference is amazing, our tags have far better traction than our 6x4's believe it or not. Tags have to lift to stop the drives from being lifted off the ground especially I notice US trucks I've seen have very short suspension travel
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fland Thanks this.
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I'm wondering why people who are very concerned about fuel mileage don't simply slow down? Every 1mph speed reduction is 1/10mpg increase. Slow down 10mph and save 1mpg - for free. And the slower you go the less important aerodynamics are. I have a Peterbilt 379 with a C13 CAT set at 500hp, 10 speed and 3:55 rears pulling a very non aero trailer that will get 7.5 -7.7mpg at 60mph. If I decide to do the 6x2 conversion I should get 8.5 to 8.7mpg. I suppose it would be slightly better with an aero truck but not much. TMC has Pete 387's and 379's that are specked identically running the same speeds and pulling the same trailers and there is only a 2 - 3/10ths difference in MPG. Since I already own the Pete free and clear it's not worth buying another truck to save $2500 a year in fuel. Also at some point what you like has to enter the equation.
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As I posted in another thread, look at these videos for the answers.... http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintruck/toolbox/videos-demos.jsp#xonetires
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