Fuel Tanks And Lines

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  1. Tired 359

    Tired 359 Bobtail Member

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    Hope This Is In Correct Place. If Not Please Direct Me There

    The Tanks On The TIRED 359 Are Dated 2006 And Are Peterbilt Tanks. Only One Tank Is Plumbed In. Was Looking To Get Both Tanks Usable. Thought The Return From Engine Should Go To Right Tank And A Crossover Line Was Needed. The Only Fitting On Bottom Of Both Tanks Looks Too Small For Crossover. After Studying And Reading Information On Here I Think These Tanks Are Both The TOP DRAW Style Tanks As There Are Two Fittings On Top And When Looking Inside They Both Have Siphon Tubes To Bottom. One Being Open And One Having A Factory Crimp On End Not Sure What All In Involved In Getting Both To Draw And Return

    I Have Another 2000ish Peterbilt With Factory Top Draw Tanks It Is Not My Truck So I Can’t Salvage Parts Looks To Draw And Return Thru A Common Block Style Fitting On Frame. Is The Fitting A Common Tee Or Is There A Mecanism Inside To Make Both Draw And Return Equally
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    You'll just need a tee for supply, and a high flow splitter for return.

    I would avoid the balance line myself, though it is likely legal for that truck. Screenshot_20241014_191024_Samsung Internet.jpg
     
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  4. Tired 359

    Tired 359 Bobtail Member

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    Not Questioning Your Advice But Can You Explain The Return Splitter
     
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  5. Big Road Skateboard

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    Plumb the return line from the head to the top port of the splitter, then out each side of the splitter to the return port of the tanks.

    The splitter puts equal return to both tanks when set up correctly.

    The supply will draw equally with a tee, as long as all lines are in good shape, same size, clean vents
     
  6. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    I don't remember the exact size, but I replaced the splitter from your pic with this kind on my truck
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  7. Tired 359

    Tired 359 Bobtail Member

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    THANK You. I’m Guessing That The Siphon Tube In Tank With The Crimp On End Is Return
     
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  9. SmallPackage

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    The old mechanicals run better drawing from bottom. The fuel pressure caused by gravity helps them old pumps. The bungs on bottom of tanks were always just 1/2 npt. Tee at left tank to cross over to rh tank with a #10 hose from tanks to filter or pump. That is all you need. Return fuel to lh tank by plumbing to top somewhere. Usually a #8 hose or sometimes depending on pump set up it may have two return hoses. One #8 and #6 to lh tank.

    crossovers are not illegal. The top draw system is Just new technology that was necessary for the new computer powered pumps to work. Many old trucks had top draw 50 plus years ago but that didn't work very well at all with mechanicals.

    also with bottom draw you never have problems with water build up in fuel that sinks to the bottom and stirs up with every fill up.
     
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  10. SmallPackage

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    Many older tanks used that siphon tube for returns so that the hot fuel would cool as it went back in to mix to alleviate vapor. If you’ve ever been around an old Cummins 220 or 250 they return the fuel back to the tank so hot even at idle that the tank breather looks like it is smoking.
     
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  11. Tired 359

    Tired 359 Bobtail Member

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    Was Wondering About This New Technology With Old Mechanical Engine

    Like The Top Draw And No Low Crossover

    Old Style Sounds Less Troublesome. Less Fittings
     
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