I know this is not a semi rig, but I've been trying to get an answer before I spend the money and potentially do something wrong... I have a 2003 International 4300 with 215 HP DT466 engine and 6 speed trans, 3.55:1 rear end and 19.5 low-pro tires. The truck carries a static load, about 25,000. I recently got the truck (actually put my old box on the newer chassis after the old one had an electrical fire under the dash). Problem is this truck, while it has great power, good acceleration, and I generally can climb hills in 5th and 6 gear, it hits the engine redline governor (2600 RPM) around 70 MPH. It used to be a Ryder city van, so that gear ratio makes sense, but I do more OTR driving with it and I don't want to be screaming along at redline all day, for the obvious reasons of engine wear and fuel consumption.
I found a website that does a good job of telling you the MPH speeds from common rear differentials after you input RPM, trans ratio, and tire size. From what I read my DT466 gets max torque at 1600 and max HP at 2400. I'm out east and most of the highways here are relatively flat. According to that site if I move up to a 2.73 rear end I will be turning 1900 RPM at 65 MPH, which I like a lot more than 2400. However will it be too weak that I'm down-shifting every time there is a slight uphilll grade? I don't mind using the shifter when going up hills- that's what its for after all- but I don't want to be unable to maintain speed on very slight grades. This is the question I can't find an answer to... with my weight (25k), and HP (215) is a 2.73 reasonable?
Gear Ratio Change? How tall can I go?
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by 14ghz, Oct 29, 2011.
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I wanted to post a link to the calculator and a photo of the truck but it says I have to have two posts first, so here is one...
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http://www.angelfire.com/fl/procrastination/rear.html is the calculator I was using to determine I want a 2.73
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I really don't see why it wouldn't work for you at 2.73, especially when you note most of your driving should be on flat ground.
Someone with specific experience with the DT466 would know for sure, but with a TQ peak @ 1600 and HP peak @ 2400, 1900 sounds pretty close to a sweet spot to me. -
2:73 is pretty high of a gear. The peak torque is really not that great on these engines. The HP usually out does the torque, meaning the need to pull hills using higher rpm's. 25k is a pretty good load to pull at all times. At 1900 cruise, as soon as you hit a small hill you would need to shift gears.
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I was thinking a 3.26 would suffice well for you.
But honestly, since you are not traveling far distances, could you just lower your speed to 65mph??? Not only will you save a little on fuel but you can also save the $$ on the gear change. On a 300 mile day, going 70 compared to 65 is only getting you to your destination about 30min sooner. And on a shorter trip, say 100 miles you would only save you 10 minutes.
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I think it will be okay.
I have geared straight trucks to similar specks.
Mostly flat running will be okay IMO.
They do however suffer in the hills.
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Its not the speed I'm worried about, I do most of my highway driving at 65. But right now at 65 I'm turning 2400. On a motor that tops out at 2600. Seems awfully close to me. If I can get that down to 1900-2000 at 65 I'm sure I will get much improved fuel efficiency and less wear on the engine?
The only mountains I drive over are the Appalachian range, which can be steep (like on I-65 in WV) but not as long as what you've got out west. Its very rare I find myself driving west of the Mississippi, only there is a big enough story to send me there. I have 6 gears I don't mind using them, but for the average highway here that is flat, I think I could be getting better MPG if I slowed that mill down a little. -
I-65 in WV??? You made a wrong turn somewhere LOL!!!!
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I think your current gear ratio is much lower than a 3.55. With that caculator you used I entered the info and with 225/70/19.5 and an overdrive gear of .73 and rear ratio of 3.55 at 2400rpm. That setup would give you a speed of 88mph. When it asks for tire diameter it means overall not the wheel size. A 225/70/19.5 tire is 32" in diameter. You also need to know what your 6th gear ratio is. I used .73 as a guess.
I used to drive a truck similar to yours. It had 22.5" wheels on it, but the rpm's and speed were similar to yours. It had a rear ratio in the high 4's. IIRC it was a 4.56. You might want to recheck your numbers.Last edited: Oct 30, 2011
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