General Purpose Trips Database Software App?

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  1. Mark Kling

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    DropBox shares files. If one user updates their spreadsheet, they drop it into DropBox and the main user sees the file.

    You can set up a main folder, with each driver having a subfolder. Only they can access their subfolder, the main user can see all.

    It works like a explore window on your phone or desktop or while on the road. You simply drag the file to the folder and it updates the main folder.

    So if they had a spreadsheet they input their data, save with a DTG (date/time/group) and move it. The main user now has their information in a timely manner.

    Free accounts are a couple of Gb, whereas 100gb is about $9.99 a month. Nothing is saved on the cloud. It is simply a file sharing program across different platforms.
     
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  3. STexan

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    I've considered cloud file sharing but I'm not interested in sharing an app's data with other users, but only want it readily available to the one end user, from any device. My app concept is not intended for "small fleets" but rather an individual driver.

    But mostly, I just don't like the concept of a "flat database" (spreadsheet) that is very difficult to work with and easy to "mess up" unintentionally, especially when working with it from the limitations of a small-screen smartphone.

    I personally had rather work with "forms" for data entry/edits, as well as review of data and "onscreen reports". I'm going to do this for myself anyway. Once I get the bugs worked out (if I can get it that far), and it can be used by a variety of different driver types (CPM, percentage, per-trip, etc) I'll make it available to a few beta volunteers and see where it goes.

    Admittedly this software is difficult to master to make for a truly functional and desirable piece of customized software, that works across multiple platforms, but nothing that's worth doing is easy.
     
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  4. redoctober83

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    I use a free accounting software that I can access from anywhere with any device called front accounting. I pay for a server to host my website and projects I toy with and so it was easy to set this software up to use. I've used it as a company driver and now as a small business owner. I need to learn how to make more in depth modifications to the software to better track milage and all but it's a very good piece of software and would allow me to expand as I start adding more trucks.
     
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  5. Balakov100

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    If this is something you can use excel for.
    Just use Google Sheets instead. All online. And can view/edit data from any Internet connected Smartphone/PC (Mac too I guess). All Web based. So..

    Google sheets isn't quite as good as excel. But it's getting better. And can't really beat free.
     
  6. STexan

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    I have built very extensive custom applications using Microsoft Access and OpenOffice but it's a shame there is no easy way to port those applications over to multi-platform (smartphone) compatible apps that still function at least somewhat the way they do on a desktop, and with current data that does not need to be "synchronized" (as in SQL data on a hosted server)

    Setting up relational database apps (to incorporate different data sets and relate them to a given parent record) with excel or other spreadsheet is as easy as herding cats. But then again, working with SQL data and from multiple platforms, in a common format is not easy either.

    I can appreciate why developers charge $100+ dollars an hour for their expertise and mildly complex apps can cost $30-50k to build from the ground up, just for one version (Android or iOS)
     
  7. teqntexas

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    when you are at the point you looking for beta testers, i'd really like to be on that list, currently company, but by end of year will be going o/o. thanks
     
  8. STexan

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    Will do. Once I get past the initial learning curve of the software with designing the company driver app, the modified apps for owner op's will be relatively easy. Plus, I'll try and design them in such a way the user can add their own unique "items" and defaults to more or less customize it for their unique needs.

    The initial learning curve is always the hardest. From what I've found so far with Zoho, with desktop data entry, the process will be fairly straight forward and quick, however doing data entry via a smartphone will be a bit more tedious, although not overly impossible.

    In many respects there will be lot of similarities and between an o-o app and a co. driver app, yet there are unique requirements for the owner-op app. However, technically, an o-op would be a able use the co driver app almost as effectively insofar as tracking road expenses, advances, expected revenue, etc, however accommodations would need to be made for carrier deductions from settlements for various things at various times.

    But I also plan on it being as useful as the driver decides to implement it. i.e if a user just wants to put in just some data and just some pay items, and just some reimbursement items and maybe not bother with tracking fuel, that's fine, but the more detailed the user is with data entry, the more useful the app will be. It will not be able to read minds. That said, I do plan on automating as much default data entry as possible where/when I can to save time and make more user friendly and less opportunity for data entry error.

    I halfway expect to have something close to what I'd like by January, depending on how much time I'm able to spend with it and how much community help I can get from other Zoho developers as I try and navigate the many hurdles I'll come across.
     
  9. MidWest_MacDaddy

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    Could just save it to the cloud...
    If you wanted to access is from different places.
     
  10. snowwy

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    sure, you can save anything to the cloud. think of it as a backup. but i think for that instance, on that particular app. a usb flash drive would work better. or even your phone. it's a pretty small file, but to make it work, you neither a microsoft product or openoffice or a linux version called libraorg i think it's called. msft costs but the other 2 options are free.

    i think what texan is looking for, is something that updates and can by seen by various computers.
     
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