Get fired; can't get hired?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by CSDixon, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. bzinger

    bzinger Road Train Member

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    Truer words never spoken .
    It's funny how they pout when they know the driver is right too ... especially dispatchers whom I don't hesitate to call out .
     
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  3. JV_620

    JV_620 Medium Load Member

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    The word is that Prime is one of those companies that will not hire those terminated in previous job roles. At least the newbies that are trying to break into the business anyways.

    Western Express it is...or Werner...lol
     
  4. 1278PA

    1278PA Road Train Member

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    dont forget carolina cargo and cr england where the pay is so low you pay them to drive lol
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    It depends on your situation. If you hit something and it's expensive enough plus preventable you will find yourself unhireable for a while.

    If you google DAC Reports you will see there is a certain amount of months and years attached against a violation incurred by a driver so that person will not be hired by someone else in the industry that uses DAC Reports.

    Sometimes companies go one step further and implement a blacklist with your name to bar you from a regional or national haul. I am blacklisted from hauling steel via EckMiller decades ago because I won a court case against them when they tried to starve me out of work. I had some savings that carried me through a while which helped alot until it became clear that I had a case against them when miles per week dropped to 200 pay miles instead of say 3000. That was a long time ago and Im over it. No worries. However towards the end of my medical time of trucking, I talked to Maverick here in Arkansas about hauling flatbed steel and such and found out that there was a B/L against me through them. You wont find such things in a official list. It's something employers sometimes do in extreme cases to lock a driver out.

    Most of the time, you can consider actions you do such as drinking and getting drunk then driving a 18 wheeler a ban for life via DAC once upon a time until the late 90's at that time they loosened it up to allow a 5 year ban for that behavior which does happen, witness the recent video out of Minnesota of a drunken trucker getting corraled by the Law before he really ran off the road. It's a pretty much a automatic bar to employment for 5 years for trucking. Never mind anything having to do with driving other vehicles for that time period as well.

    I did use a work around when my DAC got too hot, I kept trucking in a Class B dump truck paving sitaution for a few years. I must say it was at the time one of the best decisions I ever made because not only I bypassed a burnt DAC I maintained experience levels in a commercial vehicle with trailer and air brakes etc. So that positioned me even better when it came time to relocate to Arkansas pernamently and join a medium sized trucking company there. I was able to hop out of the dump truck and hop into a reefer with a load to California due in a few days without too much trouble and the rest they say is history. It is important that the small employer with the truck does not participate in DAC. Nor did he care really. He needed a good driver and he got one for the paving company at the time. I was one of his best and we were a pretty good crew in our time. Just needed to stop by a big box store on the way out of town to collect one or two shovelmen to work the tools all day. And they did a good job too. (There was a certain time period they banned that behavior as well. Heh.) Anything good they eventually ban or write a law.

    Anyhow.

    Enjoy your time in the Trucking Industry, employers are generally "At will" and you are a moment away from looking for another job at any time. If you are a good driver you will have no problem. I have many times improved my pay, equiptment etc with a few phone calls and going to orientaton across the USA the following monday several times. Which is one reason I have had almost 50 plus employers in my 35 years in the work force. Always something better and worth changing employers and moving up. That is alot better than being fired and have to scratch around for work no one wants to give you.
     
  6. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    Nope! Plus laws in certain states prohibit companies from disclosing info other than verifying your employment without your written permission. That crap can come in handy. I don't have issues getting hired but I miss that about my crappy home state of MA. They literally can't say a word other than yup, he worked here.
     
  7. ZVar

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    That's male bovine excrement! I wish people would stop repeating this lie.
    There are no laws, federal or state, that restricts what a previous employer can say about you except there are libel laws if it's untrue. If it's true they can say what they want.
    Heck, if they could not say anything other than employment dates DAC would not be around...
    Go do a search and read up on it, here is a jump start.. https://www.google.com/search?q=what+can+a+previous+employer+disclose
     
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  8. BlackThought

    BlackThought Medium Load Member

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    Yes but all are different. I was fired from Werner. Got pre hired by Swift the next day.

    Only to quit Swift after a month lmao

    The co.panies I called before swallowing my pride all told me no because I was either terminated or because I broke Co.oany policy.
     
  9. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    Oh? I wish people like you would stop repeating things they don't understand about states they've never lived in. Start reading up on MA 201 laws and educate yourself know it all. I was management and had to be specifically trained to walk on eggshells when they came out. It's VERY easy for an employer to be sued in that state. If the words that came out of a previous employers mouth directly result in you loosing a job for somebody in that state, they WILL come after the company, and they'll win. A previous employer will almost never do anything other than confirm employment and many will request you sign a VERY long winded form when you leave authorizing them to basically say ANYTHING other than that, even then that law doesn't go away..... but you knew that.
     
  10. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Maybe you should read 201. It's about protecting personal information. A very well defined set of information. Why one if fired is not on that list.
    Show me one single case where truthful information has caused the company to lose a lawsuit and I'll belive you then. Otherwise saying they can only give dates is b.s.
    My proof is not only the search I gave, but the fact DAC even exists.
     
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  11. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    I'm sorry, did I give the impression I gave a rats ### whether you believe me or not? MA makes and follows it's own rules, that's a well know fact in the north east, whether you believe it or not doesn't concern me.

    Unlike MI which is a right to get screwed state, MA is very pro worker. The employer is always in the wrong. There's a reason so many businesses won't set up shop or in MANY cases not even do business in MA, their petrified of it, and they should be. The MA AG has sued OUT OF STATE people for violating the 201 just because a MA resident was involved in more than one situation. You think it's legal for an AG to sue in ANOTHER state in violation of a law that doesn't exist where the business was conducted in? Didn't seem to stop it!
     
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