Get paid .92cpm or a percentage?

Discussion in 'Swift' started by DickJones, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    i think DJ has nads for doing what he is doing---he has low cost as for personal--so he might be ok--the first 2 yrs will be rough--but maybe he will do ok
    for some people lease may be the way to go--nice new truck with warrenty--you can walk away any time--it does have a few good points--and his carrier does have the frieght as well
    for others buying a "seasoned" truck is the way to go--thats definately my preference --but this isnt about me
    both ways you can either make it or be in a world of crap
    the best thing is RESEARCH---crunch those numbersw--consider how hard you want to work--and how much you want to see home
    not to critisize but i think dick didnt check and see just what the actual cost per mile or day is going to be--or the tax advantages of leecing to owning is--just from his posts
    i definately cant say which is better----what works for one person doesnt work for another
     
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  3. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Factory Warranty DOES NOT PAY the BILLS when the truck is sitting at the dealer.

    2010 T660's have a few RECALLS that yours might need to be checked

    Axles
    Steering
    Latches
    Suspension
    Steering Column
     
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  4. walleye

    walleye Road Train Member

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    That's the way it read to me as well,.......

    Everyday I have a better understanding as to what has caused this industry to go to hello,...And one of those things is the lease scams so many get suckered into,....
     
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  5. The Challenger

    The Challenger Kinghunter

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    Dick,

    There are a lot of options when it comes to buying a truck versus leasing a truck. I have researched this myself. Select Trucks offers a 2yr 200K mile warranty on used freightliners that includes the EGR system. I believe it is a $1500 dp for the truck. Also, Arrow offers a program as well.

    I do have a couple of questions for you. What are the specs for the T660. Did you have to put a down payment for it?? What happens if Swift does not give you the miles to run this truck???

    KH
     
  6. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    thanx for the info. Think next time i've got the time, i'll try to make an appointment at the nearest Kenworth dealer, pay them the $100 or whatever to have them go over the truck with a fine tooth comb, and tell me what needs fixed...get a print out, and then take that back to Swift. I still have about 25 days to get anything on the truck fixed as part of the contract. then i will have said to buy the truck "as is".

    thanx for the heads up.
     
  7. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    Here is the thing. I get a kick out of those guys with "say no to cheap freight" stickers on their trailer, etc. But its a 'catch 22'. Okay....you want $5 a mile (but dont tell anybody its costing you $3-3.50 a mile to operate your truck as an independant)...you want that higher paying freight, want the big companies like Swift who undercuts other companies bidding for contracts to start bidding MORE.....you understand what will happen?? Some of you i dont think do. So i'll tell ya.

    You think ACME inc. will actually pay for the higher shipping on XYZ transportation co.?? No...they'll pass it onto the customer. So that toilet seat you buy will go up $5. That gallon of milk will cost $6. eggs will go to $3-4/doz.......lets not even start thinking of unleaded and diesel. And you're already crying about sky high prices, and the falling dollar.

    What do you think will happen to the prices of ANYTHING, if over a months time, trucking companies start charging 20% more for shipping ???
     
  8. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    down payment was $2700, but didn't have to put a dime of it up front. I have the cash, but figure if its going to be taken out of every check, i might as well start up an account with $2000 of it, and get a good base started. Not to mention no truck payments for 3 weeks....so there is another $1600 to go into the account for a 'rainy day'. Not to mention the fuel surcharges i'll get back....No credit check (whew....which is what i was TOLD Lone Mountain didnt extend credit.....but i think it was because they spoke to swift, and swift BSed them about the amount of miles i would see per week, just to close another door that might get me to sign on with them....which is what happened.)

    So, for all of you thinking i dont have some sort of biz plan in my head...that i just jumped into this with my eyes wide closed, shame on you. When the truck payments start, i'll already have $4k in an account.
     
  9. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    Really!?!? If you add 20% to the rate of a truck load of eggs it would add less than 2 cents per dozen. Fuel lets think about that. 6000 gal of fuel going 300 miles at 2 bucks per mile. 20 % would add 40 cpm or $120 to the trip. Do the math on that comes out to .02 per gallon.
    I would pay 2 cents more for the stuff I buy if it would help the rates go up by 20%
    So Mr. Jones what do you think would happen if the rates went up by 20%? I fail to see the problem but I might be missing something.
     
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  10. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

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    Lease ops get no benefits; No paid holidays off, no paid sick days, no paid personal days, no paid vacation.

    Medical insurance premiums will normally be higher than what a company driver would pay through a group plan provided by the carrier.

    Dental, vision, life, and disability insurances will be the lease operators responsibilty. Workers comp will be needed (or at least the lower cost occupational insurance if offered) in most cases as well.

    Other things that trip up new lease operators is the self employment tax hit. 15.3% of your net earnings will be subject to this tax. You WILL need to make esimated payments each quarter so be sure you are setting aside money from each settlement.

    Other problems are your truck payment, Bobtail insurance (unladen insurance), and other "incidentals" (ie; qualcomm, trip pak, transflo, prepass, fuel tax reporting) fees may be deducted on a weekly basis by the carrier. Other traditional financing is based on 12 monthly payments rather than 52 weekly payments. At the very least you will make 4 additional truck payments a year in a carrier lease program.

    In the event of a breakdown the lease operator will be sidelined while the truck is in the shop meaning no revenue. Sorry warranties do not cover your down time. I hope you have the resources to rent a truck to continue working or you may have to give up that load you were under.

    Good Luck!
     
  11. Broken Spoke

    Broken Spoke Medium Load Member

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    Its a good thing that trucking companies haven't found a way for the drivers to pay the company $3.00 a mile for the privilege of working for them!. (NAAA they wouldnt do that!
     
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