Get Rid of 14 hour rule. Now! Strike will do it. POLL...

Taking a nap middle of the day if you need it. not trying to be a butt just saying you have control of your hours and how hard you run if you need an hour nap say every 5 hours plan that into your trip

 

who in the world sleeps 10 hrs anyway the 14 hr rule means more time in truck less money,oh the shipper/ receiver never held you up,i own my own truck, authority, ins i get very good rates,but i drive when i need to and know enough when to sleep.been at this a while i dont want to live in the truck i have a house for that

 

14 hour rule is garbage, if you work 14 hours a day your 70 hours is up in 5 days

11 hour driving rule after 10 hours of sleep- who can sleep as much as they drive pretty much?

Maybe a 16 or 18 hour rule would better suited.

8 hours is a lot of time for sleep if your using it for sleep not sitting in the truck stops or casinos and just marking on your log your sleeping. If you wanna split your 8 hours in to 4 and 4 then you only have 16 hours to work (which means including your driving, fueling, eating, shetin and or sitting at truck stops or casino if that's what you like doing).

If you decide to sleep a consecutive 6 then you have 18 hours to work and do same as mentioned above. You shouldn't be able to split the 6 hours of sleep only a consecutive 6 will let you have a 18 hour work day.

Be able to take a break or two in between driving and be able to stop and eat a breakfast and maybe even stop for a lunch if you don't eat breakfast and then have a dinner break. Not worry if you have enough working hours left in your day to make it to your next point of rest. Live, eat, shower, shiet and sleep like a human.

I think it would be fair if you would be able to make it across the widest point in the U.S and back with out having to take a restart on the road. Everyone should be able to restart their hours at home.

 

Now for all those saying that this is to many hours to work or why should you be able to work longer instead of getting paid more and work less. That would rise prices up in everything. We raise our transport price then the cost of living goes up.

If you work a 9-5 banker job 5-6 days of the week that's 40 to 48 hours your working. That's without including the time you wake up and shower eat a breakfast and driving to work also include your drive back. How many more hours you think that adds to your day. You don't get paid for those hours driving to work or sitting in traffic, don't get paid early to wake up and feed your children or yourself. Give them a bath or bath yourself. Include all the factors if you work like that. Then after work you have the same thing, pick up your children make dinner feed them and yourself, clean the house up some unless you live like a disaster or a tornado went threw your hours like you see some of these steering wheel holds dash boards a d it's not only dash boards some open their doors at fuel pumps and you see garbage falling out ( that's what they consider taking the trash out is).

Getting back to the point 9-5 job 5-6 days a week that's 40- 48 hours without including waking up to get ready, drive to work and back, and also taking care of business after work. Your 9-5 job turns into a 6-9 or even 10 depends how productive you are after work still.

That's only looking at a 9-5 job. Now let's look at something a little more physical. Be a contractor your up before sunrise to get all hours of day light to work till 6 or 8 pm depends when sun sets and still have business to take care of at home after your jobs done at work.

No one works a 40 hour work week. They only get paid for the 40 they work,theirs still a lot of business and preparation before and after their job that counts into hours of the day working but not getting paid.

So if you wanna have a nice easy life and sleep almost as long as you have to work then be a driver do your logs and always follow the laws.

This job is not for everyone the only reason these hours of operation and all these restorations are made so everyone can have a chance to do this kind of work, this still doesn't mean it should be for everyone cause they know how to hold a wheel and sleep as much as they are allowed to drive.

If you know what your doing then the O/O will never be faded out just always gonna be getting more since everyone wants to work smarter not harder. Long live the O/O everyone else can haul the cheap freight since that's how they get paid.

Hope this didn't offend anyone but that's just how I think, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and their own success in life. Do what you do to get what you want done.

 

I'd also like to say try to keep a log book for when your home and what you do and log it for all those drivers that think 14 hour rule and 70 hour is good enough and shouldn't be changed.

Next time you get fired or quit or stop working and don't come back to this industry or back into this same line of work, keep your log book and do your log while your at home everyday working your job.

Off duty- time your off of work (means your not doing anything work related at home or work or side job) this means all comfort, relaxing, no worries. Relaxing feet kicked up having a beer and no worries or responsibilities for this time.

Sleep- mark how many hours you actually get to sleep. From the time you go to bed to the time you wake up.

Drive- just what it means how many hours you drive a day where ever, you get in the car you mark it

On duty- this would start at the time you wake up and have to start preparing for the day you have ahead of you, also when you get home preparing your dinner or yourself for the next day, taking care of business around the house, playing with your kids. This is all on duty since you are not just relaxing with your feet kicked up. This is where your responsibility comes in and marked down as on duty.

Now look at your page at the end of your day. I can bet you over your 14 hour rule. I'm pretty sure you didn't get your 10 hours of sleep in before you can be on duty and drive for 11 hours.

Just saying try it out see how it works out.

 

The 14 hour rule needs to stay.

However, I do think we should be able to stop the 14 hour clock when we log 45 or more minutes off duty for meals/showers/naps/whatever.

The 70 hour rule could use a reform. If we are allowed to drive 11 hours a day, we should be allowed to drive 88 hours in a 8 day period. I hate taking 34 hour resets in BFE, and I hate driving 7-8 hours a day to chase the 70's.

 

Boss calls me the evening before. I have to load on the western edge of the state. I get up in the morning, drive to the yard, pretrip and fuel the truck, drive like a bansheee to get to the other edge of the state. Spend 45 minutes loading the truck. Yes we have to load our own trucks, get in the truck drive as far as I can on the small tanks I have, stop and try to fuel without adding too much time, grab some nasty ashed crap out of the food warmer, Jump back in the truck and drive like a banshee to get back to this side of the state, pull into the plant, scale the truck, Go into the building, back up to the stinger and spend 45 minuted unloading the truck.

drive out of the building scale out, race back to the yard 33 miles away, park truck, postrip and do paper work. 701 miles for the day. Yeap I can burn through 14 hours in a heart beat. For get about taking a crap or a piss and don't even think of having a decent meal that is not behind the wheel of the truck rolling at 68 mph.

It sure would be nice if I could leave a little early, beable to stop for a meal or a bathroom break etc and stop the dam 14 hour clock for even 1 hour. I could make my scheduled load time and my scheduled unload time and still make it home for some booby time and not have to camp out 40 minutes from home because my 14 ran out.

We do this run OFTEN and it is agravating at best. We have many runs that are close to the same milage and number of hours involved.

I am all for modifying the 14 so that it can be stopped for an hour or two during the day for a decent comfortable meal along with dropping a load afterward.

The 14 would not bother me if I was over the road and not regional. Load one day, drive your 10 or whatever, stop for the night, get up 15 minute pti and fuel and drive for your 10 or what ever. Do this a couple days till you get to your drop. Your are only burning 12 hours or less on average. You guys can easily stop for an hour or so if needed and not worry about the 14.

 

You can drive for more then 11 hours a day. Wake up do your 15 min pre trip inspection then drive 11 sleep your 10 wake up do your 15 min pre trip inspection again and drive again then you just drove for 13.5 hours and been on duty for .5 that is your 14 hour workday. 5 days of that their goes your 70 hours.

Then you gotta sleep and shower and sleep and eat before you wake and and after you go to sleep.

If you wanna keep the 14 hour rule then just get rid of the 60/70 hour rule all together.

Still don't understand how you can sleep for 10 after 11 driving. Maybe drink a bunch of nyquil or take sleeping pills I'll sleep for 10 hours.

My 2 1/2 year old son can stay awake and function longer than that. He'll drive his power wheels from 7 am till 7pm only coming in for food or juice. He'll pass out around 10-11pm and at 7am he's ready to do it all over again. Have to have two batteries cause it need 18 hours of charge time after a full discharge.

 

I remember the 8 hour rule and on a good night I would only get 5 hours sleep. When you have to stop and shower, eat and wash clothes that will eat way into your sleep time. The 10 hours will allow a driver to unwind, shower, eat and wash clothes and still get a good nights rest.

 

Thanks for not saying it's a lifestyle. I'm getting really burned out on hearing that $h!t.

"Never get less than 12hrs sleep. Never play cards with a man whos name is the same as a city, and never sleep with woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body".

That's a movie line. Anybody know from what movie? *hint* It's a Michael J. Fox film