Getting axles to scale
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by W Bench Farms, Aug 16, 2022.
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I can't tell if your 5th wheel is adjustable, but I'd remove that toolbox and slide the trailer up onto the tractor a little more. Hauling more weight over the rear axles makes you feel like your dragging an anchor.
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The problem is the arch of the trailer causes the front airbags to extend too far. When that happens, they have a smaller area to push against than the rear bags, so the same pressure in each results in differing loads on the air springs. I've never pulled a spread so I've not done it, but it always looked to me like there should be a spacer for the front bags so that both sets of bags were operating at the same height from piston to top plate. That should ensure both axles of the spread were carrying the same load. Double check and make sure there's only one height control valve, too. If there's a valve on each axle (uncommon) it can cause this imbalance.
EDIT: Almost forgot to add, make sure the truck suspension height is correct. If it's a touch high, it exacerbates the overextension of the front bags.Last edited: Aug 17, 2022
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A couple of things I've been thinking about from the suggestions. Front trailer axle has 2" plastic spacers on top of the air bags. Only one leveling valve. Suspension on the truck was reset when I replaced the leveling valve not too long ago.
Will moving the fifth wheel forward just move more weight from the drives to the steer axle, or will it move some of the weight from the trailer to the truck? I want to think that it won't move any weight off the trailer but not 100% convinced.
I stacked 2 4x4's on the back of the trailer, 1 in the middle and 1 at the front. Someone mentioned that this may throw some weight forward. However, back in my racecar days we would block springs to make them pull more weight to a corner. Not sure if this is the same principle.
If I haul 50' beams they'll sometimes have shorter ones mixed on the load. Going to make sure I move them forward and not load in the middle. I'm always curious to hear stories about loading trailers that anyone else may have.pete781693, CAXPT and Another Canadian driver Thank this. -
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Moving the 5th wheel forward adds weight to the drives and the front axle (not much to the front unless improperly loaded). Personally, if I need to adjust mine, it’s about 500lbs per notch and each hole on my trailer is worth about 250lbs. To me, it looks like your trailer isn’t riding up on your tractor enough. Sliding the 5th wheel will remove weight from the trailer.
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