Getting burnt out on this OTR trucking thing!

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by KingTrucker, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. EAzYrIDer007

    EAzYrIDer007 Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the info bro. I do have tankers and passenger. I'm going to the DMV and make appointment, for my hazmat.
     
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  3. EAzYrIDer007

    EAzYrIDer007 Light Load Member

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    Could you give me the companies name's your talking about? I had my b license for 10 years, but just got A's in march.
     
  4. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    This is what you are talking about?

    Got tanker? FMCSA new definition could require new endorsement

    Posted on May 25, 2012 in Blog
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    If you don’t have a tanker endorsement already, you might consider obtaining one. Besides being handy for business, it could help you avoid penalties if you haul certain types of fluid bins. Why now? Some states may already be enforcing an expanded definition of “tank vehicle” that now applies to vehicles hauling an aggregate of 1,000 gallons in containers of 119 gallons or larger.
    It’s quite possible that you run in a state, or will soon run in one, that has adopted or will soon adopt the change in federal regs pertaining to tankers. That means law enforcement could be waiting to check your credentials for the endorsement.
    Under a notice of guidance published Thursday, May 24, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration says individual states must adopt the definitional change by 2014 at the latest.
    The change originated in May 2011 when the FMCSA issued a final rule for CDL testing and learner’s permits. In that rule, the agency expanded the definition of tank vehicles to include haulers of 1,000 gallons aggregate in containers of 119 gallons or more.
    In the guidance document issued this week, the agency says it absolutely intended to expand the definition of “tank vehicle” to flatbedders hauling intermediate bulk containers, or IBCs. That had been a point of contention for some because truckers hauling IBCs containing certain liquids or gaseous materials have not previously needed the tanker endorsement. Hazardous materials are covered under different rules.
    The American Trucking Associations petitioned the agency earlier this year to change the definition back to the way it was prior to the CDL-testing rule. And while the FMCSA did grant the petition, the agency did so to study the matter further and to clarify its intentions through official guidance. The guidance states:
    “The new definition is intended to cover (1) a vehicle transporting an IBC or other tank used for any liquid or gaseous materials, with an individual rated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more that is either permanently or temporarily attached to the vehicle or chassis; or (2) a vehicle used to transport multiple IBCs or other tanks having an individual rated capacity of more than 119 gallons and an aggregate rated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more that are permanently or temporarily attached to the vehicle or the chassis.”
    The agency has also clarified its intentions for empty bins and those with residue only.
    “Furthermore, the definition of tank vehicle does not cover the transportation of empty storage tanks that are not designed for transportation and have a rated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more, that are temporarily attached to a flatbed vehicle,” the FMCSA stated.
     
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  5. GreyHound

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    Have to have a tanker for hauling totes. Trust me it sucks cost me 24 $
     
  6. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    Is this what you are talking about?

    "This new definition will require a tanker endorsement on the CDL of any driver operating a CMV that would be transporting four or more intermediate bulk containers, since those typically contain anywhere from 250 gallons to 330 gallons of liquid per IBC.”

    "A loose enforcement timeline creates confusion for drivers and companies operating in multiple states. The rule was enforceable as of July 2011, but states have until July 2014 to comply. ATA Safety and Security Policy Manager Boyd Stephenson told The Trucker, “States have the option of starting to enforce the rule on the effective date, others wait longer. So you might wind up with Montana beginning to enforce the rule immediately and Idaho choosing to wait three years.” Particularly for distributors doing business in multiple states, this could create some confusion and/or additional expense."

    "The notice was published in the Federal Register way back in May 2011 as part of a larger final rule revising the CDL testing and learner’s permit standards."
     
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  7. Radman

    Radman Road Train Member

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    There pallet size containers that have liquid they go into a van trailer. They put alot of these in a van it sloshes like a tanker with no baffles. You'll rock back and forth in a van trailer. Places like dupont paint ship these or places that make packing tape usually. So their changing the rules cause a Van full is like pulling a tanker.
     
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  8. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Changed my mind. Maybe you do what it takes to be a truck driver.
     
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  9. walstib

    walstib Darkstar

    If you don't live in or neat Elizabethtown, KY(45m south of Louisville), they won't do you much good...If you do, PM me...
     
  10. Tonythetruckerdude

    Tonythetruckerdude Crusty Deer Slayer

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    KT...have you thought about food-service...Lots of opportunities in that area..most jobs of that type are local , home every night jobs..the down-side (to some folks) is they are very , very labor intensive..but that just keeps you healthy. I did it for over 30 years with the same company( GSF..Golden State Food's) and made a really good living at it. When I retired in 2011 , I was the # 4 man on the seniority list and made just a little shy of 73 k the last year I worked. I ran only 3 days a week too....now to get to that level takes awhile but , most guys with the 4 day weeks were well into the 85k plus a year though....I'm not aware of where you are located , but they have 21 different DC's across the US.....Good Luck....
     
  11. EAzYrIDer007

    EAzYrIDer007 Light Load Member

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    Thanks bro, i live in baltimore. Didn't know it was going to be this hard getting a job. And i definitely don't wanna go OTR.
     
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