Getting Into The Game

Then explain to me just how I’m insured through Northland with an all mechanical engine on paper logs…..

 

I run paper logs. My insurance (Northland) never asks me about ELD’s.

Times 2

 

Yet I do it every single day of the week…..

well, when I feel like working, yet when I do feel like working, I once in a while find myself ~3000 miles from home, and I think a lot of people vastly underestimate what it takes to reliably run a 28 year old truck that far out, I bought it in 2017 and ran it locally and went through it until I put irp on it in 2019, in 2019 a new 389 was 175k, in 2024 I went through all the receipts I had for my truck when I was fighting with the insurance company and had just over 130k into it, not including the 15k I paid for it to begin with. It goes faster then most think, and some of the dumbest #### you can imagine is the most expensive, $900 for a window regulator, $400 for an air check valve etc.

 

Don't.

The truck is too old for YOU.

Get a newer truck, less than 10 years old, and use that. Lease with a company that will treat you well and you can see how this all works.

Take the old truck and park it and learn how to work on it so you can "revamp" it, driving it for FUN!!

 

Gonna disagree. I have never run anything but paper for myself, and Progressive has my insurance, they’ve never made an issue out of it either. Not quite sure where the deleted trucks comes into play here, but that doesn’t affect any work with a decent company

 

I've kind of thought this for awhile too. Nice to hear that some of these guys who like old iron are able to do it with no problems.

I'd never own an older truck, older than say 2000, but I do not like freedoms being taken. The beauty of trucking is that if you want to you can do it your own way. Most don't though.

 

he should just sell it to somebody who wants to do that then. To each their own I but to me it’s kind of silly, but I’m practical to fault and guess I answered my own question about what happens to (most) old trucks like this. They either rot in a field somewhere, get handed down as an heirloom, or in some rare and lucky cases get restored to be a show truck. But they get pushed off the road by regulation and company policy. If it was a 1994 379 with an electronic motor, plenty of places would let him run it. Some companies will still lease on Pre-2000 ELD exempt trucks. (My company does.) 1984 truck though doubt it.

Spot market broker freight I believe it, but there are still plenty of companies that haul specialized/contract freight that would sign on a pre-2000 ELD exempt truck. (I work for one such company). 1984 truck maybe not…most of those are long retired but there are still plenty of 90’s and early 2000’s pre-emission electronic motor trucks still working. Yeah, many of the gut-rot driver-mill companies with their fleet of 5 year old or less curb-sniffer trucks might not talk to you if you’ve got an oldie but goodie, but guys who own trucks like that ain’t trying to work for outfits like that anyway. They work for mom and pop outfits hauling specialized or contract loads or have their own numbers and do same.

 

Once he realizes all 10 tires are garbage from sitting for a decade or more, reality will start to sink in. And then the tire place won’t even know which way to turn the lug nuts to get them off

 

X3!

 

But both of you started driving when measuring horsepower just meant counting how many horse's rears you could see from the driver's seat.

A new driver might have more difficulty and face prohibitively higher rates.