Getting Screwed out of Miles

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  1. Slargtarg

    Slargtarg Light Load Member

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    Can someone explain this to me? I just got a series of loads that really question how miles are calculated.

    I picked up a load from Americold, then delivered to Wal-Mart. Then I was supposed to dead headhead back to the Americold shipper for my 2nd load.

    The plan was:

    Point A ----> Point B -----> Point A -----> Point C

    I was paid 315 miles from Americold to Wal-Mart, but only 275 miles of deadhead from Wal-Mart back to Americold. The actual driving distance for both trips is 316 miles.

    How miles are calculated are always cryptic, but this just strikes me as BS.

    Getting screwed out of 40 miles on short loads really hurts.
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    It isn't deadhead miles back to the shipper, it is empty miles.
    And it should be the same amount of miles both ways.

    You are asking the wrong people for opinions. You need to talk to your company.
     
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Well that's trucking so you just kind of have to live with it. The freight business is very competitive and one of the best ways to cut corners is to short change drivers. Every company out here hauling freight for profit and begging customers for freight to haul does that.

    That's what I love about where I drive. If I decide to take a 158.3 mile detour I get paid for those extra 158.3 miles no questions asked. If I decide to drive 340 extra miles out of the way that will get paid too. I dont even have to call anyone to get it authorized. Just drive it. In fact whatever route I choose to drive on whatever load I will get paid the exact mileage I drove no matter what. Accident ahead that I need to go around, no problem, all miles will be paid. Some drivers pad miles but it's foolish stepping over dollars to pickup pennies adding miles unnecessarily. It's just nice to get paid for every mile driven. That's the difference between a company that hauls their own goods and products with the trucks just being a means to an end versus a company actually trying to turn a profit off of the trucks. One's core business is very different from the other.
     
  5. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    It's tricky man....your company could pay you virtual miles. My company pays me address to address. Some companies pay city to city. It's absolutely a blow if you, for example, drop off on the east side of San Antonio, then drive to the west side of San Antonio. You may have driven 30 miles, but a company won't count that as empty miles.

    It could also be human error. First things first. Ask your company about the discrepancy. Make your CONVERSE, not CONFRONT.
     
  6. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    Was there a fuel stop factored into the first trip?
     
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  7. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    Probably the zip code to zip code miles for DH
     
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  8. Wargames

    Wargames Captain Crusty

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    i like how you operate!!
    Thats the way to trucking. Others hauling , figure it out, he did. ha ha ha
     
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  9. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I like it when your co. pays a bonus for all mi. driven over 10,000 for the month, and my calculation says I drove 10,240 mi but their calculation says I drove 9910 ! ! sorry no bonus this month :biggrin_25513:
     
  10. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Do you know how to tell when someone thinks you’re stupid? They will say something stupid to you.

    For example, if you ask your dispatcher about this, the dispatcher will either say
    1. Well, I don’t know how that all works…it’s above my pay grade and …unnn…
    2. See, it’s the rotation of the earth. A to B is longer than B to A because you are traveling against the rotation of the earth. Plus there was a full moon. So that’s why.

    “C’mon, Six…no one does that.”

    Sure they do. I was running 200 miles from a shipper to a nuke plant. Loads had $1250 nuke pay. Suddenly, the 3rd load had $500 nuke pay. Travel agent tells me the first two loads were booked before noon. Loads booked after 12 noon only has $500. Clear?

    Unmm…okay.

    “Do you want this load, driver?”

    No.

    “Why not?”

    Because I don’t understand how a load can lose $750.

    “I just explained it to you.”

    I know, I understand your explanation. I just don’t believe you. Pass on that load.
     
  11. Thrasher28

    Thrasher28 Road Train Member

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    You got played either way and should probably bring it up, but my only guess is:

    They have those miles for each trip already input into their system, if it is a regular trip. The loaded miles were input at some point with higher miles and the deadhead was maybe when they were paying zip to zip or whatever.

    I don't think they're intentionally trying to short change you, but I'd still bring it up to them.
     
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