Getting sent home from orientation because you're a fatty?

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  1. GasHauler

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    Those are federal laws and the states have their own. "At Will" and "Right to Work" are two completely different programs. The "Right to Work" law deals with the union and contracts. The "At Will" laws deal with hiring and not hiring. Then when you get down to it each state have different rules they go by. There's more "At Will" states than not. When you get to review the state you'll find that most "At Will" states do NOT need a reason for hiring and firing an employee. So after you get through the federal requirements then you need to go through the state.

    TNMT has got a good response. Just tell them what they ask, no more or no less.
     
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    At my young age...I always loathe saying or admitted it as it feels disrespectful. However, I do hope that's not your first indication of that bit.

    Im sorry if I offend anyone by saying this. But we do live in a very ungrateful country, and when people go to serve that country, keep it fed and sacrifice to keep things going (I'm not simply speaking military either.)...when it's time for lots to be drawn, no one wants to respect the person who carried them in a time of great need.

    Oh! When it comes to job laws, ALWAYS follow the more strict laws. If federal is okay with pot, but state is not... Then you'd better not be smoking pot. Do only say what is asked, but don't omit anything just because it wasn't asked. It's okay to say what you did, just not why. Make sense?
     
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    Its still haphazard in the hiring process. Some if you hand in your employment record and it looks good, its good. Some will go through it with a fine tooth comb. Good paper work, completion of O and welcome aboard. Others want to interrogate you behind a two way mirror and a spot light in a very hot room as a preemployment interview. Different amounts of tickets, preventables, different criminal background requirements.As long as they meet the bare minimums for employment some will hire that way. Hell different appearance standards. Some use a lot of different agencies to check you out and some don't. So someday thanks to the government maybe it will become more standard and we won't have to talk about it. And the bad drivers will have no were to run.
     
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    The way I see it Vets get treated a lot better than I did back in 1970-1990. At least now you can go into the restroom at the airport and find an empty trash can and not one filled with uniforms.
     
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    Not all of them... I saw a guy in military regalia (backpack, boots and all.) walking down i75 last week. I cursed sni's no passengers for 6 months rule... I'd seriously thought about breaking it to help him out.

    Some do get better treatment, but there's still so many who came back home and just got left behind for one reason or another. It isn't society's job to keep them up, but still too many get abandoned.
     
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    Good information Im pretty sure States that are "right to work" means that you don't have to Join the Union. I live in Colorado and the company I work for makes you Join the Union.
     
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    Sorry a country that has money for war but no money or will to care for those who fought is a F'd up country. If your old and homeless your a V Vet, if you're younger now you're a Iraq vet. Now my thoughts are this. Everyone is lying for a hand out, or we seriously have a Vet problem that is being ignored by those in charge. How to solve it or to continue this line of thought I would head on over to the Political side of this forum. No more responses to this line of conversation from me.
     
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    Agreed. And ditto on the political bit... Didn't mean to get off topic, but it seems that comes with the territory.

    On topic:

    Right to work -
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work_state

    At law -
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

    Hopefully that helps.
     
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    Right to work, and at will go hand in hand. You don't have to join a union. So therefor you don't have an employment contract or protections. Which means they can hire at will and fire at will because you have no right to work laws. Right to work is killed and replaced by at will. If you don't support right to work and the protections of your labor from unfair employer actions and you think at will is a good way to go? Don't ##### cause you got fired, let go, not hired for no reason. Dude I don't like your attitude, clean out your truck and go home. The only recourse you have is court if you think they violated some state or federal law and that expense is on you. In other words just go home and lick your wounds. Right to work? Your wages are not protected. So don't complain when you're replaced by cheap labor. Mexican truck drivers ring a bell?
     
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    And no I am not a union member nor am I advocating anything for them. You just don't have any kind of protections in the work place in a right to work state. If our boss man isn't breaking any laws he can do whatever he wants to do and you take it or leave it. You don't have a say in it and the only way to vote on it is to leave or stay.