Going from one truck to two and the what ifs?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Shotgun94, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Shotgun94

    Shotgun94 Medium Load Member

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    I am just thinking alot about this. What if your insurance won't let you hire a driver?

    How about being leased onto like land star other carriers and hiring a driver that way so he

    just has to pass their requirements and yours to get aboard?

    How'd you do it guys? I know we have a few of ya on here.
    Thx again
     
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  3. AlexanderK

    AlexanderK Light Load Member

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    Finding driver probably will be harder then dealing insurance and/or company to leases to.
     
  4. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    My insurance requires two years experience. Can’t remember the exact details but most of the time it’s no more then 1 accident in 3 yrs, no more then 3 tickets, etc.

    Normally if insurance won’t accept them then you don’t want them anyway.

    Send to insurance before officially giving them the job. Or have them send their MVR and have insurance approve it first before going further.
     
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  5. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    I’ve been told many times over the years when talking to o/o’s. Never go from one to two. If your going to expand go from one to three, and up from there.

    Reasoning is that if one truck goes down, you end up relying on the other truck to float the business until the broken one is back to earning. Could be weeks if waiting on a shop/dealership.

    As an O/O today I am happy with one truck, but the more i think about expanding, the more sense this makes. Don’t forget once you hire someone you also have to buy workman’s comp insurance. That’s another added expense if one truck is down.

    Good luck finding a good driver, trust would be my biggest problem. It’s so easy to get a cdl, and we’ve all seen the winners this industry has to offer.
     
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  6. ast26909

    ast26909 Medium Load Member

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    What if your only truck breaks down?
     
  7. Shotgun94

    Shotgun94 Medium Load Member

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    I've heard that before, the one to three. Three trucks will support that one truck.
    Yea, one but how many one truck shows fail bc they cant fix the one truck. They dont have a backup to keep some money going. So I get ya their. It's just I would think with some CL ads, and how you present your business to a driver will be a large factor in them deciding if they want to drive for you or not. I think about how I hired on to a carrier. What I was thinking like oh 1000 a week yay! I'm happy. That was me.
     
  8. Derailed

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    Or 2 of your 3 go down or you cant find steady reliable drivers to fill them. Sometimes the logic out here never ceases to amaze me but then again looking at the failure rate it explains it.
     
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  9. Ridgeline

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    Yeah at 85 to 95% in the first year, it amazes me how many people don't seem to listen to the advice of those who have sustained business in really bad times.
     
  10. Midwest Trucker

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    If you have two trucks and one goes down then you call up and get a rental until it’s fixed. Simple.

    Your hardest challenge will be hiring the driver. Likely nobody will even respond to your ad. If you do find a candidate then meet up and most importantly do a drive test. You’ll know pretty quickly whether he/she knows what they are doing or not. If you wanted some extra assurance then have them run with you for a week then turn them loose. I’d recommend only hiring from your area that you base out of. The pool of candidates will be smaller but atleast your truck won’t get abandoned some random place and you have to quick making money, and then spend money to recover it. Besides you know your market better then any other I’d think as far as lanes and freight.

    If you do the three truck thing then be prepared to immediately come off the road and work towards keeping those trucks busy on good loads and with good drivers in the cabs. Seems like a recipe for disaster though because if you got 2 trucks sitting you’ll be driving yours trying to keep ahold of the 2 sitting and you’ll be screaming about the driver shortage.

    I think I’d buy a 2nd, get a steady driver in it, then immediately look for a 2nd driver and put them in your truck. If you lose a driver you can go back to full capacity by you steppping in.

    Once your going steady with that and you want to get a third going then you’ll just need a third driver and if say you lose one around the same time your two trucks will pay for the third atleast. It’s a real challenge lemme tell you.

    You really need to think more along the lines of what @BoyWander has done in getting his own authority. You’ll be very hard pressed to make any of this work by leasing on somewhere. IMO.
     
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  11. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    I’ve done it. Started with 1 truck and a dedicated run and needed help. I bought a truck hired a driver that I knew. Then things got slow I left the driver on th dedicated and I went into the oilfield. Things were hopping so I hired four more and bought more trucks. So at one point I was driving one and keeping track of 5 more. Way more work/headache than I wanted. When the oilfield slowed down a couple of years ago and my dedicated driver lost his medical (MS) I’m down to me and my truck. That’s the way I plan to stay. I found I’d much rather drive than manage. The extra money is not really worth the cost to get it... For me anyway.
     
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