Good affordable tire patch kit?

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  1. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    With ether you have to be careful. Best if tires mounted on the Truck. I’ve only done a few times. Sprayed about 4 or 5 seconds into rim/ tire, make a trail diwn side of tire, and a few feet away on the ground. Light it up. After it seals. Air it up. I was surprised, it actually works.Best experiment using as little as possible, at first. Also spray near ground, as a fire will be burning on the outside of tire, for a few seconds
     
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  3. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Ether is best observed, before even thinking about it.

    Bead Cheeta, if I spelled it correctly, is a 20 gallon or so air tank pressurized with a large outlet and nozzle to explosively seat the bead with air pressure only, much safer than an explosion of ether which requires experience and judgement.
     
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  4. Rideandrepair

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    Best advice. I’ve only done it, when in a jam, with a leaking tire that had lost its seal. Instead of running with a flat.A bead blaster isn’t too expensive. Much better and safer. Still need to cage tire somehow while airing up. Don’t trust one. They do sometimes blow out, I’ve heard it called a zipper blowout. Very dangerous, tire that’s been ran flat is especially vulnerable to a blowout. They sometimes make a popping sound while airing, before blowing, but not always. Not worth your life.
     
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  5. Rideandrepair

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    IMO it’s hardly worth it. Keeping a spare, mounted on a rim. And tools to change it, is one thing. Learning to safely change and air up tires isn’t Rocket Science, I did it for one Summer, when I was 17 yrs old. I met a Driver that had a permanent indented forehead. Another Guy at the shop diwn the road died from a tire exploding, no cage. I had a 17” tire blow with only 30 lbs of air, almost lost all my fingers. It’s dangerous work, need to study the Pros, and learn from them first. Utube isn’t a good place to learn. Safety first. It’s just not worth saving a few bucks.
     
  6. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    When I was a local/dedicated route driver, I once rolled a flat tire from Las Vegas to Santa Fe Springs, CA even though I had warned the supervisor it was a bad idea and to just get it fixed there in Vegas. He said to just roll and get it fixed at their main terminal in Santa Fe Springs. So I got there and I told the mechanic I had been rolling the tire flat for many miles. Well, while the mechanic was inflating the tire, it exploded, hurting the mechanic’s ears and damaging the truck side bumper. I felt bad for the mechanic. I’m almost certain the mechanic wasn’t trained properly.
     
  7. baha

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    I stopped to help a driver mount his spare tire on wheel, he all/ready had blow out off rim and had a long screw driver trying to get it over rim i grab my long tire bar out of head board and he made fast work of it but he sprayed way too much ether in tire when he bent over with a cig liter i spoke up just as his hat blew 10 feet in air, but the tire had 10lbs of air showing on gauge, put wheel on truck inside pos. and got air line to stay on by its self and stood in ft. of his truck talking till air dryer popped off a few times when he was bleeding off extra air it stunk of raw ether bad?
     
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  8. PE_T

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    So how can a tire be “caged” if you have no cage? Would mounting the wheel help? I’m guessing I’ll need a locking inflator (to the valve stem) and a way to stop the flow of air from far away as well as a psi gauge.
     
  9. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I found these two instructional videos from the Tire Industry Association.



     
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  10. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    Ok, I found the answer I was looking for.

    “A tire safety cage must always be used when inflating a commercial truck tire. The only exception is when the wheel is bolted on a vehicle while being inflated. It is critical that the person inflating the tire stay out of the wheel and air blast trajectory during the inflation process. Always use a clip-on air chuck with enough hose to ensure that the tire tech stands completely clear and away from the inflating tire.”

    https://www.tirereview.com/following-osha-truck-tire-mount-demount-and-inflation-procedures/
     
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  11. HoneyBadger67

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    For $1150 you can get 23 tires repaired ($50 each). Add in the cost of the necessary tools for mount/dismount.... it's so much cheaper just to let a tire monkey do the job.
     
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