Good & Bad Companies? How about Good & Bad Attitudes!?

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by Bill W., May 1, 2014.

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  1. Bill W.

    Bill W. Bobtail Member

    Apr 30, 2014
    I can appreciate what was probably the original intention to report 'good' and 'bad' companies, I'm sure there are some rough outfits out there, just like some CDL schools that are basically meat factories, or 'mills.' Here's my issue, there's far too much complaining by folks that are probably never going to be happy, or are always going to wind up the 'victim.' I don't need to be a seasoned driver to see the issue here, it can be seen in other industries as well.

    I have a hard time believing that certain companies are out to screw drivers over. I see a problem with a driver complaining about a certain company when other drivers are successful at the same company. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going on - it's a bad attitude, bad outlook, poor work ethic, and a victim mentality that is the issue.

    Granted, there will be certain individuals in certain companies that do not play well with others. Some people seem to have a bad day, every day of the year. I've heard horror stories about certain dispatchers. But in general, respect is earned, and from what some successful, veteran drivers have told me, miles and good paychecks come with a respectful attitude and great work ethic.

    I just joined this forum, but I see a lot of bad attitudes and complainers. I don't expect this post to change anything. People gripe and complain, that's the reality of it. I'm just hoping that I get to rub elbows with some positive people. I've already met some great people in this industry. I'm excited to become a part of it. I just felt I needed to comment on some of the ugliness I've also seen so far. The tragic thing is that when I first started researching trucking, all I was seeing on the internet was griping, complaining, and slandering of companies. I know there have to be countless other prospective drivers that have gone through the same thing. It seemed like there were no good companies! You get to a point where you're thinking they're all crooks and scoundrels.

    Unfortunately not everybody can see through the garbage and think for themselves. The negativity just recycles and so do the bad attitudes and slander. Thank God there are positive people that are out there to guide prospective drivers. There are successful drivers that don't fall into the trap of labeling good and bad companies. Again, I realize that some people in this industry are completely selfish and do not care about the welfare of others. But labeling whole, entire companies that have been around a while as good and bad? Garbage. There are no good and bad companies, only good and bad attitudes. I'm sure the bad attitudes are sticking their noses up right about now.
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

    Sep 19, 2005
    Baltimore, MD
    Your naivete shows clear as a bell in your last sentence. Keep that up and you will learn the hard way.
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  4. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

    Apr 18, 2010
    As a student you haven't had a chance to see the real world. The fact of the matter the trucking industry has the highest turn over rate of almost any job. Companies have two choices to fight this expensive problem. They either go out of their way to retain experienced drivers that make them money with minimal side effects or they choose the other route of hey they are going to quit anyways we might as well get the most out of them. These type companies go for the cheap labor. Wait until you are lied to on numerous occasions, you work almost 100 hours and get a $200 paycheck or you want to go home but are pointed the other direction... you will be right back here posting.

    Sure there are posters that are horrible workers and everything is someone else's fault but there are many legitimate complaints too. Validity comes in numbers. Sure an experienced driver knows how to make the best out of a company but an experienced driver also knows how to be selective and what the industry offers. The industry is so broad in treatment drivers make from $25K to $100K plus just because how you play your cards. Newbies are green and most are taken advantage of. About 1 in 6 survive a year. That "1" is the one that moves on to greener pastures.

    Then you have your dispatchers which are the same as any employee as far as good and bad. You can go to a great company and get a horrible dispatcher you don't click with. They can make or break you.

    The ugly is out there, so is the decent living wage. These forums are a valuable tool when used correctly. Do your job, don't complain, be dependable and things will slowly get better. You will think different about the job a year from now. Two years from now you will see the industry in a different light then you did at 1 year. This progression will continue all the way to about 5 years you will finally be seasoned and have a full understanding of the industry. Don't think you have it figured out yet because you haven't even begun to figure it out. It's good to talk about it though. That's how you learn and that's one reason the forums are here. :)
  5. BrenYoda883

    BrenYoda883 Road Train Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Bill W.... I think you have a good point and are right.. there are a lot of drivers with a bad attitude and poor work ethic..

    The high turn over rate of drivers is not just because all training companies are bad... drivers dont make it for a variety of reason.. some for accidents, some for poor performance, some not cut out for it...

    I know a fellow driver right now fed up with werner.. upset about this and that.. bjt the whole truth is that they were screwing up.. driving way out of route to meet up with friends, took out a pole, had property damage claim, been reported fkr yelling at and flipping off cars, blasting the highway horn at cars.. well, then things got bad, werner cut the miles, made them take tbe navigo dispatched planned route, told them where to get fuel.. so theh are fed up and looking for another company...

    I am witn werner and happy.. but, no one will believe it.. even go so far as saying I am not a driver but a recruiter.. not true... say I am lying... when I am not... it is just too difficult for some to accept that there are some happy drivers at every company... I accept that not all drivers have good experiences... but it is delusional to think there are no happy or content drivers at werner, swift, etc,....

    Bill W... I dont let the negativity get to me.. I can be in the industry but not of the industry... I do a good job, keep myself, my truck and my attitude clean and sparkly..
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  6. Air Breeze

    Air Breeze Heavy Load Member

    Jun 19, 2009
    I wont post anymore.
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  7. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

    Oct 22, 2010
    Can't wait till Bill becomes a trainer,

    in 90 days.

  8. Shaggy

    Shaggy Road Train Member

    Sep 21, 2006
    Obviously did not rub elbows with enough people or read much on TTR. CRETE ? :biggrin_2554: 10 years too late. lol
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  9. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

    Sep 4, 2009
    Appleton, Wisconsin
    "53 feet ahead sits a guy who doesn't know #### about trucking"
  10. Bill W.

    Bill W. Bobtail Member

    Apr 30, 2014
    Well, I'm not surprised at some of the responses I've gotten. Honestly, I wonder why at least one of you even bothers driving if the industry is THAT bad and is constantly cheating you and ruining your health. Sounds like a victim to me. I'm sure the trucking industry is making you not exercise and eat that fast food too.

    I wrote this in case another prospective driver happened across this thread and was disillusioned from all the negativity. I don't need to have ever turned a key in a big rig to see the BS. I know plenty of seasoned drivers that have shared their years of experience with me and have shown me that anybody can be successful at a small company or a mega carrier. Yes, drivers can actually be happy at those 'evil' companies like Swift, Werner, Western Express, CR England etc...

    If I came across as arrogant and naive, well, that wasn't my intention. But frankly I could care less how I come across. I don't claim to know what it's like firsthand to drive a truck or how the industry works, but I know enough about people and have been fortunate to get to know a decent amount of experienced drivers to help me realize how much of it is just complaining and bad attitudes. My intended audience is fellow prospective drivers - to encourage them to not believe the BS.

    CondoCruiser - I agree with a lot of what you said. Thank you for your post and insight.

    883BedomRider - I hear exactly what you're saying. I know a few drivers that have 15+ years experience and are VERY happy at Werner. In fact, it was one of those drivers from Werner that helped me realize how much BS there is in the industry. He gave me two basic words of advice: safe driving can be summed up by driving in a way that doesn't affect other drivers; and any driver can be successful and happy at any company provided the driver has a great attitude and work ethic. Respect is earned, not demanded.
  11. tsavory

    tsavory Road Train Member

    Jun 4, 2013
    Paoli, IN
    I won't get into this good and bad company bs over the years I have been at a few and they all have good and bad in them. It does break down to the attitudes of all involved the driver, dispatch, safety, and upper management. But one thing I do know is if where your at is not working for you then move on. My trainer had been with my starter company for 6 years and loved it where he was at. I got three months in and realized that it was not working for me moved on made more paid off the school loved the new company and never looked back. Sometimes wish I had stayed at second company though.
    Point being some click at certain places where others don't and some just will never click in this industry.
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