Got this far and now my chance to go to Roehl , is gone.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ladytrucker49, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. Keyster

    Keyster Light Load Member

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    This is yet another one of those posts where the OP positions themselves as a victim, while not giving all the information.

    If the doctor is concerned about morphine showing up in a hair test 6 months later, AND Roehl says "it shouldn't be a problem", what exactly is the problem? A doctor refusing to sign off on morphine NOT being in your system after 6 months KNOWING the carrier does a hair test anyway seems very fishy...unless there's another issue you're choosing not to divulge.

    And hair tests go back 90 days.
    Any longer than that and it gets prohibitively more expensive
     
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  3. ralph

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    So why not apply to a different carrier (they're all the same with different colored trucks) and not report the knee injury and then you don't have to report the drug use....
     
  4. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    Yea, I agree with Keyster. Something isn't adding up here. Prescription drugs showing up in your body prescribed by a physician aren't a problem if it occurred six months ago. Your physician not wanting to sign off sounds more like it has something to do with your knee not being fully rehabbed than any drug issue.
     
  5. McKlakin

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    I just got my medical release forms signed by my dr, and roehl seems to be working fast forme to get into the next orientation, if your ducks, are in a row, and stay on top of them... they have there #### together
     
  6. ladytrucker49

    ladytrucker49 Bobtail Member

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    I never ever said or implied I was a VICTIM!
    I SIMPLY stated that my doctor couldn't release me due to the fact that I still had some meds in my system to feel comfortable releasing me YET!

    NO ONE is blaming ANYONE...

    I made this thread just letting friends know what's going on and to see if anyone had suggestions as to a school
    where I can finish What I started ....instead I get remarks questioning my Integrity thinking there's More to this that there is.

    And BTW, my Egyptian doctor who I Trust , DID tell me the hair follicle test GOES BACK a year.

    I thought that seemed long also.

    I thought we were here to help each other.

    Deirdre
     
  7. Keyster

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    Hair testing generally uses 1-1/2 inches of hair, representing about 3 months' growth (head hair normally grows at about 1/2 inch per month). It is generally accepted that in order to test positive, the drug in question must have been used 3 times or more within the window of the test. After a drug is used, it takes about 7-10 days for the hair containing the drug to grow out of the scalp enough to be cut. Therefore, the hair test will not include drugs used in the week prior to the test. The drug remains in the hair, growing out much the same as hair dye and "dark roots". Eventually that hair containing the drug is cut off with normal haircuts.

    IOW unless you're Lady Repunzel there is no way a hair test can detect morphine usage that long ago.
    You might trust your Egyptian doctor, but that doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about.
    OR, there's another reason why he's resisting signing off.
     
  8. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    Listen to Keyster. Your doctor is correct that hair testing CAN detect years of drug use but the lab will only attest to a window of 90 days and that is all they test for ... 90 days, period. Regardless your confidence in your doctor, he needs to familiarize himself with the nuances of hair follicle testing as relates to the trucking industry. It's not even DOT recognized and as such many companies don't use this test. Since yours does, if you are clean from the past 90 days, you're golden. No one is blaming you for anything. From the limited information you provided something simply isn't adding up. Going by your latest comments, it's your doctor's limited knowledge of how the hair testing is implemented and read that is the problem. So in essence, his mistake and lack of knowledge on the subject is now your problem. Find another physician or if you insist on remaining with him, find another company that doesn't hair test. Realistically, these are your only options IF you didn't leave out anything and this is all there is to it. See the thread DOT DRUG TESTING and talk to Gryphon. He used to administer the drug tests for the DOT and by far has the most accurate knowledge I've seen to date on the Internet regarding such. We -are- trying to help you.
     
  9. boxxxtrucker

    boxxxtrucker Light Load Member

    You could go to trucking school on mars, it wouldn't matter. as long as your doctor refuses to release you nobody will hire you no matter where you graduate from. Consider a less heavily regulated industry. Somebody with physical health problems and/or a history on grade a painkills should not be OTR anyway, regardless of whether or not they are in remission. We need people who are 100% healthy out here, no less...
     
  10. ColoradoGreen

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    At the risk of starting a #####-fest, I would ignore what Boxxxtrucker stated. There are plenty of driver's out there who have knee, foot, hip, neck, shoulder, elbow, and every other joint in your body problems. Its a matter of properly managing it out on the road (primarily, minimizing further injury and no painkillers). One of the driver's I learned from had a bad fall (about 13-15 feet) from a load years ago, it completely shattered his left leg. He was bed-ridden for 3 months, and it was 7-months before he could "properly" walk again. He runs oversized loads and has to constantly climb all over his loads carrying chains, straps, cables, or rigging if loads are being craned on. His leg could hardly be classified as 100% as he can't lead with it when climbing, but, I can assure you that he's a helluva' driver and ###### good at getting about anything on his lowboy and utterly capable of his job. If he could go from being unable to walk back to hauling serious overdimensional loads, I see no reason why you couldn't handle a van if you manage your knee correctly.

    Take the advice of other driver's here, if your current doctor won't sign off, find another doctor who will.
     
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  11. boxxxtrucker

    boxxxtrucker Light Load Member

    Not ########, but it is what it is; We just lost two young men over here because a driver with a similar pain condition decided he would cheat the system and drive with a history of back spasms. He was pulling a pup for a local tile company when his back went out completely. He slammed on the accel and sent a toyota corolla flying in to the intersection, striking another car and then another. Both men in the corolla were dead, one had been decapitated. The trucker was fine, not a single scratch on him. But sure, tell her to find another doctor...

    I don't doubt that there are people out there who have overcome great physical challenges, but quite frankly when you're on the road in a commercial truck you've got the lives of every single person out there with you in your hands. Do you really think it's worth the risk, even if the chances are slim??
     
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