Government regulates everything else time to regulate rates.

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Nobroker, Apr 28, 2020.

  1. longhaultransport

    longhaultransport Light Load Member

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    Fixed cost is one number.
    Operating expense is another number.

    If you park your truck because the rate is too low, how do you pay your fixed expenses? For how long?

    If times are tough and I still have to pay my fixed expenses, I'd rather run at a lower cpm, then eat the whole number.

    Over a years time some loads pay really good, some pay not so good, and in the middle the average should be a number that you are comfortable with.

    If not, find a different job.
     
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  3. 062

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    Brokers already undercut as much as drivers do. It will just make it that much more competitive. The only way I could see rates going is down.
    As for your last line. I dropped a broker in Texas last fall because we couldn’t agree on a price. I had been loading for them for two years. If the money isn’t there, then move on.
     
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    062 Road Train Member

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    Everyone is in a different boat. My truck and trailer are paid for, insurance is paid until next year.
     
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  5. scott180

    scott180 Road Train Member

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    I've read several times on here that if we were paid something such as hourly that the workers would all become lazy.

    So what. Fire the manager.

    The boss gets paid to manage his workers. If they can't do that they shouldn't be a boss.
    I've always worked hard and had higher pay because of it.
    All states should be "at will". Meaning you should be able to quit or be fired "at will".
    Reliable drivers can demand wages that meet skill and not so skilled can work for minimum wage.

    Imagine if all the time you spent on your companys behalf was paid.
    Yes some would pay $10 an hour for 70 hours away from home. That's $700. Some companies pay this.
    Some with the skill set may make $25 an hour for 70 hours away from home. That's $1750. More are likely to be around here.
    So why not pay hourly so trucking would be subject to minimum wage laws and transparent in the pay?
    Remember that old saying.
    "An honest days pay for an honest days work."
    Isn't that supposed to go both ways?
     
  6. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    That's great for a company driver. O/o set their own rates. So your logic is flawed.

    Gonna always be supply/demand setting rates.
     
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  7. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    If rates were transparent, the market would find equilibrium.

    That is what you are describing..
     
  8. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    What do you get for 70 hours a week at 3 bucks an hour? That's what the big companies are going to want to pay, with no overtime.
     
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  9. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Of course brokers undercut.

    The problem is that the way that it is set up now a broker can undercut another broker and not disclosing the rate to the Carrier he can still make more money than the 1st broker.

    That's the problem when you have this thing that you can't see. It gives the broker too much of an advantage to take advantage of a Carrier.

    Transparency would put everything on an even Keel and like I've been saying the free market will find its equilibrium and everyone will make money.

    Instead of brokers trying to undercut one another they would be trying to sell their service for the most money that they can because that's their best shot at giving the Carrier their percentage and still making money.

    The brokers that get the best rates from the shippers will definitely be in the best position to have the most carriers and the best carriers.

    Undercutting would be the worst thing for them to do Because if the overall rate that they got was less then they would have to give the carrier a better percentage to be able to compete with the brokers that actually get a better rate.
     
  10. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    There is no honesty in trucking. Not for decades. If ever.

    Boss I scraped a tree today cracked the fairing up there.

    Yer fired.

    Such honesty. HA the nerve.
     
  11. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    They are not forcing you to do something against your will, they are not taking advantage of you.
     
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