Graduation in a week - still unsure of what direction to head in

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Güera, Jan 28, 2018.

  1. Güera

    Güera Light Load Member

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    Greetings from the St. Louis area!
    This forum has proven to be an invaluable resource for me over the last year and I thank you all for your humor, insight, advice and knowledge.

    I am about to start the final week of a 4 week/160 hour CDL school and am still a bit uncertain of what direction I want to head in with my license. Despite that uncertainty, this is something I’ve always wanted to do, in general - drive a big truck.

    Last summer I nearly signed on with a mega carrier in exchange for the tuition to be paid - discovered this site over the weekend and opted to save my money, pay for it myself and be a free agent.

    I really don’t feel OTR is a good lifestyle choice for me - but see that it’s advised to do so for a few months to a year to gain that experience to open up possibilities for local jobs.

    I don’t have considerable debt, custody of an older child is shared 50/50 with his father, my house is paid off. I’m friendly enough with my ex spouse to arrange time away on the road for initial training if need be.

    Being a recent divorcee all I’m really looking for is health benefits, 401k and money to support my simple lifestyle (the health benefits were lost when I divorced, I was self employed).

    My school seems to be mainly comprised of company funded students, although they do offer job placement. I am looked at a bit blankly when I say I’d be happy with driving a trash truck or local dump trucks. I believe, not certain, that the school gets kickbacks from the big carriers thus pushing the few unsponsored students in that direction.

    My exepectations for pay are not huge. I’m after benefits and everyday bill money. I’m doing this because I’ve always wanted to, in a very general way - truck driving of some sort. I’m doing this because I want to.

    Do you think that the 6-12 months OTR experience is necessary to land a decent (30k+) local gig? My instructor Friday was a little discouraging when he said anything I’d find would likely be 16 hour days.

    While I’m not opposed to hard work I’m not in a situation where I want to work those hours anymore. I’ve put them in in the past and am over it.

    OTR wouldn’t work for me long term as I’m fairly content with my life, love my house and it’s conveniences. I was never one much for camping out or hotels. I could deal with it short term if it serves to set me up for success locally.

    I could be quite content with (forgive me if I have the term wrong) line haul - driving the same route and home pretty regularly. I’m not opposed to missing a night or two away from home.

    I would be pretty cool with physical labor, like dropping produce to restaurants , local deliveries, etc.

    Does anyone know of these companies in the area - Beelman, Kuna, Sygma, Waste Management or Aspen? Advice? When should I start applying? After my CDL is in hand? Am I delusional to try to obtain local jobs upon graduation with no exeperience? I’ve never had a ticket, conviction or accident. I’ve been self employed for 12 years so my work history is stable.

    Any advice is appreciated. I thank you all for your knowledge and experience, and saving my butt last summer when I nearly signed a contract with one of the most disreputable megas in existence.

    Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2018
    Reason for edit: Clarification
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  3. Mike2633

    Mike2633 Road Train Member

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    Sygma is a customized food distributor lots of 48' trailers delivering to chain restaurants like Panera Bread and St. Louis Bread Company. If your good at unloading 20,000-40,000lbs a day then Sygma would be the right place for you.
     
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  4. Güera

    Güera Light Load Member

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    Thank you @Mike2633.
    In the recent past I was heavily into powerlifting - I don’t know if I’d be ‘good’ at unloading like that but could probably handle it at first with assistance of a dolly or something until my body acclimates. Is it all hand unloaded or do they use dollies?
    The bigger concern is 16 hour days. I can, and will if necessary, but that wouldn’t be sustainable at 6 days a week forever.
     
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  5. Güera

    Güera Light Load Member

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    Additionally, my school is geared to make me a CDL/steering wheel holder, they don’t get into backing up in real life, just enough to pass the test, practice is held in the same truck yard where we test at. Cones, painted lines, specific visual markers. Do the local companies train for real life backing?
     
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    You'll have a dolly you would never get done if you didn't have one they will give you one. But you'll have to load it and break down pallets and dig through the load to find the right cases.
     
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    Güera Light Load Member

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    Thanks again @Mike2633 - I truly appreciate your input and time.
    I wouldn’t mind doing that at all, I truly enjoy physical labor but 20-40k without a dolly would probably kill me. Haha.
    Sygma has been on the top of my radar being that there’s a location within a few miles of my house and I’ve heard (here on the forums) that the pay is within the range I’m aiming for. My school hasn’t had anything to say about them and I’m planning to research opportunities beyond what they offer before making a decision. I really don’t care to job hop a lot. My needs are fairly simple, close to home and I’d like benefits and exercise.
    You’re great! Thanks again.
     
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    Here's how there going to teach real life backing. There going to take you right down town to one of there harder stops and say alright go getem and chances are you'll have to back in off the street into a parking garage and then back around a corner into a dock behind a poll or wall. Now that all sounds easy, because all those cones in school are replaced by car's, trucks, people so on and so fourth. And the entire thing gets real frustrating and real ugly, but that's the entire point of it. There basically going to take you there and forgive the term, but they will pop your cherry and you'll collect those ugly moments one by one after all that's how the future is done as Leslie Fiest said in 2005 and you'll end up growing a little bit and as long as you don't over think it eventually you'll figure it out or at least be good enough to get it done. You might never be one shot Johnny but you'll get it, there are stops I have sometimes that I can do, but have never gotten great at it's how it goes, but that doesn't matter as long as you can eventually wind up in the dock without taking 60 minutes to do it you'll be alright.

    Even the companies like Werner and Swift and stuff there trainers teach you stuff that the schools don't , because they have there hard stops as well and there hard back ins and truck stops and stuff and it's how it goes.

    The training is the hardest part of the battle and there's no substitute for experience. You just have to get the experience and there is only one way to do that.
     
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    Mike2633 Road Train Member

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    Here this guy is from your neighborhood
     
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  10. IluvCATS

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    After 18 months real life OTR I am still not good at backing. So don’t let it intimidate you. Then again I’m not doing food delivery in a downtown.
     
  11. brian991219

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    Don't buy into the hype that you have to "pay your dues" as an OTR driver before local jobs open up. I have held my Class A since 1992, never drove OTR until 2004 and that was only for 6 months because I was burned out and looking for something different. Many local companies will take a new driver and mentor them into what the want them to be before they hire an OTR driver.

    The food service and waste management jobs are most likely to accommodate you, and they have predictable schedules although their work environments may not be as desirable as some others. I did food service for a few weeks, was laid off from a car haul gig, it wasn't that hard. Took about a week for me to acclimate, just not my thing throwing 1,500 cases a day out the side door of a trailer down roller racks into a restaurant.
     
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