Grinding Gears

I believe that most with the problems discussed here are simply not slowing down soon enough. too big of hurry to go nowhere. Take your time slow down down shift, then repeat. Whether you drop 1 or 2 at a time just kind of depends on the situation. I never use my Jake for signal light to signal light stuff, your jake on down shifting will add more problems than it solves.

I never come up to a complete stop out of gear, just because is so much easier to manage if you stop in gear.

 

I particularly enjoy the ones that every time they put it in gear the whole truck rocks and you can hear the gear clash all the way across the parking lot!


Makes me want to rush right out and buy an old fleet truck!

 

anyone who knows how to drive wont be grinding very many gears. I dont use clutch brakes because they are usually broke. coming to a stop you should not have a problem keeping the truck in gear all the way into 2nd or 1st if you know what your doing. nobody really does things the proper way though coasting is acceptable unless your getting evaluated...

 

Guess we've never met....I'll replace a clutch before I float along and hope for the best. Gee people if you have a manual what to you think the extra pedal is for? Oh wait maybe I don't want to know what you use it for.

For the guy with a jake to brake.....what are you going to to when there is a big sing that says....all jaking comes with a $1000 price tag?

 

I don't grind very often, but it happens. It's usually a sure sign that I am too tired to drive, no matter what my log book says.

 

As for the downshifting, I usually skip one on each shift, like wsyrob said.
For the guys grinding in reverse and when putting it in gear, they aren't patient enough for the stop clutch. Suggest to them they put the clutch in (all the way) and wait 3 seconds before putting the shifter in gear. If it doesn't go right in gear, slowly let the clutch out, once the stop clutch disengages again it'll slide right in.

 

I know your right! LMAO


You know there is a way to make the truck rock when putting it in gear without the grinding and crunch noise at all?


As for grinding gear's. I down shift 90% of the time unless there is little to no room for it (stopping room) or I'm beyond all kind's of tired. It's not very often when I grind gear's. Learned how to float and double clutch long before I ever went to school. (got started at an early age) I stay away from double cluthing though as it wear's your leg out (save it for heavy traffic like Chicago) plus wear's your clutch faster. Speed shifting can only be done floating. It all comes down to two thing's. Their are "operators" and then there are drivers, the one's who have "the touch". There is a fine line between the two and driver's are becoming rare. Grinding gear's at #### near every start/reversing, curbing tire's all the time even when there is plenty of room etc. etc. are people who are nothing more than operator's rushed through a CDL mill and given a license. I was sitting at the stop light the other day infront of Walmart anda Heartland Express truck pulled up next to me waiting on the light to turn green. CRUNCH! WTF! I looked over to see if his tranny was sitting on the ground or not because it shook the #### out of that poor International. There's the problem. Look at the people they hire to put in these trucks.

Two guy's in my class at Prime, one kept trying to strong arm the #### shifter sideway's and had no idea no how to drive a manual, much less drive period. He managed to snatch the SOB from 6th, flipped the range selector down and strong armed it directly into 2nd. Lisa, the trainer told him to pack his #### and leave. Surprised she didn't just reach over and kill him for doing that to her truck. In a different truck out on a street run not on the pad the other guy was having a lot of trouble from the start but made it out to road driving with a bunch of other training truck's running up and down through an industril park. He come's to make a corner and start's the turn with another one of our truck's with a trainee sitting at the stop sign waiting. He let go of the #### steering wheel and #### near took out the other truck with our refeer unit because he looked down to find his gears. He was told to go back to his automatic school bus job.

 

I see those "NO JAKE" signs all the time on off ramps and pretty much ignore them if no law is around...Or I'll switch the jake to a lower quieter range. I have Hi - Mid - Low on my jake.

Being in gear is better than being out of gear when slowing down...

My .02

 

Are you in a company truck or your own? Normally these day's companies only put in a two stage (high/low) I've seen some with a three stage and two different cycle's 2 and 4. so with a three stage jack and the two different cycle's give's you like 5 settings.

 

I did most of my driving in the city and I never would downshift. None of us did. We all knew what gear to be in at any given speed and we're in no race to go anywhere. If we had a signal light change and had to go from high range to low range it was no big deal. A little bump on the throttle and into the gear you needed. If we did downshift every gear not only would everyone at the loading rack turn and stare we'd build up our right arm to be much bigger than the left. Who needs the extra work???

Before I hauled gasoline I did LTL and they had alot of problems with their tractors going into gear. So they had a representive from the manufacture come out and show the day drivers or yard drivers how to shift. They were pushing the clutch pedal all the way to the floor when shifting so the guy showed them a blown clutch brake. The clutch brake is much smaller than the clutch plates and will not hold up to the load. You must be stopped to engage the clutch brake. If it's not blown or out of adjustment the stick will fall into whatever hole you want.