Gun control is not the American way!

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  1. AsphaltFarmer

    AsphaltFarmer Medium Load Member

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    Haha thanks for the list of redundant fallacies.

    Come on now you're all serious?

    Everybody knows open ended insults are a bat signal for senseless debates.

    You called and I came, now all of a sudden you don't have time for a twit? False advertisement...
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Sure you can. You've reduced the crux of gun control to the finite point of open carry. People are on your side only seek to cultivate those with weak minds.

    I've not leveled any personal attacks at you either, so please don't get upset because there are many of us that see through your vail of nonsense. I never felt like you were calling me anything until your last post.

    You seem to be stuck on climate change now. Aren't the nazi's going to feel left out?

    And there's no time limit set for you to provide a single link or real example to back your point.
     
  4. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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    Sometimes i regret not being able to Thank a post twice.
     
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  5. snowman1980

    snowman1980 Light Load Member

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    Whatever dude.
     
  6. any name you wish

    any name you wish Light Load Member

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    It's interesting that you say that freedom is not a basic right, as if we must earn it.
    So basically you are saying that the very same law that establishes our government is usable when administering actions against people, but not usable when enforcing rights. It's the same document that does both. You want to cherry-pick when the same source of law is enforced, and when it isn't. These are the words of a tyrant.
    No, rights are laws, just as police powers are laws. Neither can nullify the other because they both come from the same authority: the Constitution. If there are no rights, then the police also have no power. States also have rights, and sometimes local governments do. All come from the same documents and no civilization can tolerate picking and choosing which laws are enforced and which aren't.
    There is a way that governments are allowed to operate. They must follow the law and honor rights as part of that way. If this isn't done, they will not have the ability to enforce a law, and a case will be thrown out of court.
    You made the ingenious observation that the world is not a perfect place. Kudos to your perceptive abilities. I wouldn't want a perfect world. It would be hell in its boredom and lack of purpose. Yes, at times criminals get away with crimes and abuse rights. Police do too. Governments are the second-largest killers of people in all history. We're watching Ukraine break many Russian laws right now. This stuff happens all the time. Just because something is a law does not mean it's in mankind's best interest.
     
  7. bryan21384

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    That ain't what I meant.
     
  8. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I'm sure if concealed carry was mandatory without a permit they would be doing it. Refusing to give them a concealed carry permit or the right to conceal a weapon forces them to open carry against their will.
     
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