GVW with loaded trailer

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by 4vmach1, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:52 AM.

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  1. Mark E7

    Mark E7 Bobtail Member

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    Wow, you really are clueless. That's scary that you dont have any idea what the weight limits in the US are. I honestly dont feel safe having my family share the highway with people that dont know very basic rules and regulations that pertain to safety. Not trying to insult or be rude here, just being totally honest.
     
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  2. 4vmach1

    4vmach1 Light Load Member

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    LOL I don't drive trucks and your family is fine. I simply opened my FMCSA handbook to look for a section with a CODE that states THE driver needs to scale the load as a pre-trip after getting loaded for EXAMPLE section 40.205 'How are drug test problems correct' in page 69 of the drugs & alcohol section of the handbook.

    If i didn't care i wouldn't come and ask for a section or a code to present it to my driver to let him know that he is at fault (VERY OBVIOUS) and he needs to scale the load even if its a 5000 lbs in the trailer. Please read before misinterpreting. I don't need to sit here and explain to everyone about the GVW on the axles because that is very obvious.
     
  3. clausland

    clausland Medium Load Member

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    First off, I apologize for some of the comments/insults you received on here from guys that should know better, but I digress.

    Replying to your original question, the mandatory "pre-trip" mechanical inspection is a separate issue, but making sure you're not overloaded (> 80k), or distributing the load evenly over the axles, or securing the load safely, is also the driver's responsibility. It's up to him/her to ensure it's right before proceeding. Experience plays a big part in it. One must know what he can legally scale and how to distribute it. Shifting the blame onto the shipper doesn't cut it, it's the driver that decides how much he can load and how he wants his trailer loaded.

    Ask what the load weighs, how many pallets, etc etc. If it's questionable, before I leave to scale it, I tell them, if it's over I'll be back and you'll fix it. I've done it many times. Different States allow different axle weights and what they'll allow you to do. Take VA for example, they'll let you slide em to get legal, if you're not over 80k, while OH will fine you first and then let you slide 'em. Some States will let you go 36k over tandems, while others only 34k.

    Bottom line, it's all on the driver to ensure it's right, but hey we're all human and make mistakes at times, that's the way it is, even the "super truckers" on here that insult you. In this biz you gotta have a thick skin, truck on......
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    Now now. Behave.

    Its not the driver shortage. But a driver PAY shortage.

    Companies insist on handing out 0.34 a mile. Like they did 40 years ago. I say forget it. Make it 0.80 a mile to start and we'll talk. (Inflation and all that you know...) or 30.00 a hour for 70 hour workweeks.

    Eitherway Pay me. Otherwise forget it.

    I ask that you try to cool your pyrometer a little bit. There is a wide range of people on these forums, and for the most part all want to help. Yes once in a while a burr gets under someone. Thats fine.

    I don't believe in the driver shortage at all. It's a driver PAY shortage created by the same companies that refuse to stop spending like its still 1982.
     
  5. Mark E7

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    Ummmm... scaling a load has absolutely nothing to do with a pre-trip. It's not required for a pre-trip.

    Do you understand this?
     
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  6. 4vmach1

    4vmach1 Light Load Member

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    Thank you i appreciate your normal response. His error was corrected by sliding the axles on the trailer and he was ready to roll out within 15 minutes. Only downside was i had to pay a $780 bond before he could leave.
     
  7. 4vmach1

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    Please elaborate. I forgot again......
     
  8. Mark E7

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    If you have dementia, I would highly suggest selling those 3 trucks immediately.

    Your fleet wouldn't happen to consist of white Volvos by chance would they?
     
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  9. 4vmach1

    4vmach1 Light Load Member

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    What were we talking about again Daniel?
     
  10. Mark E7

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    Well ma'am, you were telling us something about you wish you had a fleet of drivers comprised of idiots....... oh wait LOL
     
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