That exact same mentality can be applied to Carriers as well since they could go back to hiring a sales team to find customers for them and/or put their sales slacks on and make sales efforts themselves. But, like Shippers, they too have become "lazy" and let the Brokerages be the middle man and do some work too. Direct customers isn't always the best thing either.
I give nothing away for free. However, I do sometimes not bill certain things for repeat customers. That's just good business IMO.
Had it up to here....
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by ttnae, Oct 28, 2020.
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- I did not say all brokers are bad, just most.
- You WILL get the paperwork but don't expect me to park my truck and stop what I'm doing in the office to get it to you immediately. OR threaten to fine or deduct if you don't have a copy within 24 hours. It's stupid.
- Without your load offer????? You TOTALLY missed my point about not being necessary in the technology that we have available now. Customers could post their own loads JUST as easily as brokers do.
- Too many shady brokers double broker which is illegal. We are in a lawsuit where a load was put through 3 different brokerage companies. The original brokerage house billed himself as a carrier, then brokered the load and he didn't even have cargo insurance.
Definition of necessary.
required to be done, achieved, or present; needed; essential. determined, existing, or happening by natural laws or predestination; inevitable.Dale thompson and Dave_in_AZ Thank this. -
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To the contrary, I've found working with smaller brokers to be a better experience than the mid to mega level brokers. Once a broker buys into a third party package (assure assist, rmis, myfreightbroker, etc.), the relationship is gone.
I just pulled a load for a broker I won't work with again because of this. Before I even picked up the load, the phone calls started coming in. What's your location? Are you dispactched? When will you be there? How long until you're there? What are you driving? What road are you driving on?
I replied I don't accept nanny calls. I will call you when I'm loaded, and when the load is delivered. Please don't interrupt me while I'm working.
Shortly, another call. Same stuff. I said, "I don't call you every 15 minutes to see if you're doing your job, do I? Please trust your own judgement. You hired a professional to do their job, now let them do their job. I will not respond to any further nanny calls."
Then, text messages follow. Do they really expect me to respond to texts while I'm driving?!?!?! Are they nuts????
As for the ratecons, I have felt free to redact lines I don't agree with, such as tracking software. They either accept it, or they don't. I was looking for a load when I found that one.
To summarize, a good broker relationship is great and beneficial until the broker starts outsourcing their admin functions and buys into software packages.
Most importantly, as mentioned before, you get what you pay for. If you find you need to badger a driver that you paid bottom-of-the-barrel rates to, maybe you should consider upping the pay and hire a professional. Then, let them do their job.Dale thompson, Dave_in_AZ, JimmyTwoTimes and 2 others Thank this. -
I deal with small ones more too. I had to let a very good paying regular go not too long ago because of their silly corporate rules (nannying, as you say).Dave_in_AZ and JimmyTwoTimes Thank this. -
Just like any 2 sides of the story, the truth lies somewhere in between.
There are CRAP trucking companies, as well as CRAP brokerages. Not to mention CRAP customers. A lot of the fine print and nanny calls are because trucking companies generally suck. The customer doesn’t want to deal with it, yet expects perfection. So, the broker has to work double time to ensure it or the next guy fills his place. Many complaints about brokers here are correct but there are many outstanding ones too.
The OP lost all credibility when he says he ignores back solicitation clauses IMO.
Like one of the other members here said, how many trucks are you running OP? How many direct customers do you have? If brokering is so easy why aren’t you a broker as well?JimmyTwoTimes, Dino soar, 86scotty and 1 other person Thank this.
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