Hauling wrecked/salvaged autos

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Scalemaster, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    A heads-up for anyone who is looking to haul wrecked or salvaged autos on car carrier.

    23 CFR part 658 defines "automobile transport" as: "Any vehicle combination designed and used specifically for the transport of assembled highway vehicles, including truck camper units."

    Any vehicle combination meeting this definition gets special length considerations (extra length, overhang allowances, etc.)

    In 1998 there was issued a "technical correction" to that definition, found here: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1998-12-22/html/98-33760.htm

    In this technical correction, it was further defined that:


    If you haul wrecks or salvaged autos which could not pass a safety inspection, you may not meet the definition of "automobile transport". Wrecked autos are not considered to be vehicles, and are considered "freight". You could be measured like a freight hauler and could be cited for overlength.

    Just wanted to give you a heads-up before you take one of these loads.

    Be safe.:biggrin_25519:
     
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  3. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Dang, Scalemaster! Is the one of those rules that gets used when you get a jack-@@@ that you can't find anything else on? Where's the line drawn? Does one Copart car make the whole load freight?

    Be interesting to know the details behind this; I would guess it was directed at someone. Of course, it's always the unintended consequences that bite us in the rear!
     
  4. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    This is a rule for everybody, not just jack-@@@es.

    Yes, one wreck will take you out of the Automobile Transport definition.

    It is a rule that has been around a long time, is public knowledge. I am sure COPART will not tell you about it, though.
     
  5. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    My question is then, what about these cars heading to Mexico where they buy two and hook one behind the other then go down the road, and some of these are damaged or where they get a box truck and put a vehicle inside of it half hanging out?
     
  6. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    Those loads heading to Mexico or Central America are really messed up many times.

    We have shut a bunch of them down here in our lot.

    Unsafe vehicles, unsafe combinations, improper licenses, etc. etc.....
     
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    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    Of the 2 loads of wrecked cars I hauled there was no worry about overhang, they were in 4x5 cubes.:biggrin_25523:
     
  8. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    I'm sure that NO ONE there at COPART has any clue about it, I've been doing this since 1991 and this is the first I have heard of it.

    I do appreciate the headsup SM, but this is the kinda stuff that drives some of us crazy.

    Sometimes it just seems that you can try as hard as you can to cross all your T's and dot all your I's only to get kicked in the ### by some obscure fine print.

    Stan
     
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  9. ibflat2

    ibflat2 Light Load Member

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    wow as a tower who does some Coparts and IAAI hauling, I am glad for the information...

    Guess the wrecked tractors I haul can cause me trouble
     
  10. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    Don't forget people, the special length limits are there for "Automobile Transports" because they are "specialized equipment"! They are outside and in excess of the NORMAL length limits.

    Years ago truck-tractor/semitrailer length limit was 48 ft trailer including load. Now it is 53 ft trailer including load Federally (57 ft or more some states).

    If you want the SPECIAL "75 ft plus overhangs" Federal length limit for Automobile Transports, then what you are hauling has to meet the definition for an Automobile Transport - "assembled (capable of being driven, not wrecked) autos".

    If you do not meet the SPECIAL definition, then you fall back to NORMAL length limits. That's all! No one is picking on you or kicking you in the ###!
     
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  11. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    This is of course as long as you don't haul into Washington state. As I said, I do appreciate the info.

    Question for you though, how do people in your field view the 53' highmonts. It just seems like more and more companies are running this rather than stinger-steer.

    Also most of the stuff I am seeing on the road now are a LOT of road sleeper tractors and 53' high mounts so there really are NO front overhangs since there is no headrack.

    Biggest problem we seem to have is just rear overhang and some states, the front overhang BETWEEN the front of the trailer and the sleeper. I have been read the riot act about this several times.

    But every time I ask for clarifaction I really don't get a set in stone answer. Thanks again for the info.

    Stan
     
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