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  1. zpmps2

    zpmps2 Bobtail Member

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    It was my understanding because I was empty when they got me in Brownsville, that if that truck is under dispatch, it's gotta have fuel permits. I know he wasn't loaded but being on a mission to pickup and deliver a bobtail I would say under dispatch. It's about as foggy as do you log the air plane ride as on duty or not. Lol
     
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  3. Cetane+

    Cetane+ Road Train Member

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    The cop was just being an ###. Get an attorney. If its just going back to home port with no load it is not truly a CMV. You dont need any stickers or permits.
     
  4. mario01

    mario01 Bobtail Member

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    That's what all the people that my coworkers called were saying...that since he just bought it and was bringing it back home he didn't need anything.
     
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  5. tsavory

    tsavory Road Train Member

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    Just another DOT that has no clue about the rules and the exemptions to them insurance and temp plate is all that is needed to transport from place of sale to home as long as no cargo is hauled.
    DOT have the same problem we do can't keep up with half the rules in place but they should know how to find their answers but most don't even try they go with what they do know and 99% of trucks out there need to have those things and that is what he knows
     
  6. Ridgeline

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    You answered your own question.

    If you are transporting it from Tennessee to Florida, why does it have a Georgia temp non-apportioned tag?

    There seems to be a lot more to the story than what's being said.
     
  7. Ed MacLane

    Ed MacLane Light Load Member

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    I'm willing to bet you're wrong about not needing any stickers or permits to drive a truck on the road in any state. If you don't have a plate you need something. I find it hard to believe any state currently approving of such freedom.

    For the OP... When I bought my truck in NY and drove it to PA I needed an "in transit" permit which was recognized by all the states I had to drive in (NY, NJ, PA). Although if I would have had to drive in MA then I would have needed an additional permit from MA because MA doesn't recognize the NY "in transit" permit which served as my license plate (it can be displayed on the front bumper or windshield). I don't know what I would've needed from MA because I didn't need to drive in that state. With the 'in transit' permit I didn't need trip or fuel permits, but I might have needed to mark "not for hire" on the sides but I don't remember. And of course I had insurance and a copy of all the paperwork about the truck with me in case I was stopped by a bureaucrat along the way.

    One might think permit companies and OOIDA would be good sources of information for bobtailing newly acquired trucks across state lines because it happens every day. Yet I was given wrong information from OOIDA (they recommend the wrong permits....twice), a title company and a permit company I called didn't know. I forget if I tried calling the states or not, but that can often be an unfruitful and frustrating experience. I happened to mention my dilemma to my mechanic and he told me about the intransit permit.
     
  8. Derailed

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    I have read that before about Mass. I wonder if anyone has tried to challenge this. Seems to me an interstate intransit permit would be good to go anywhere.
     
  9. Cetane+

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    I was answering the OP. Sorry I did not go into detail. A CMV is defined as a vehicle engaged in commerce. So you dont need the normal permits or licenses we all usually have. All that is needed is a temp tag/plate, and insurance. I have bought 8 different used trucks in 8 different states. If you are not buying from a dealer that can get you a temp, then you walk into the DMV with your signed title, bill of sale, and insurance for the truck you are buying. They will give you a temp tag. The only state that does not issue temps is MA that I have dealt with.
     
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  10. RGRTim

    RGRTim Light Load Member

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    I moved a truck from Jersey to Texas with nothing on it but a dealer tag, no problems at all. Insurance, paperwork from dealer and a CMV should be all you need if your not under a load.
     
  11. mario01

    mario01 Bobtail Member

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    I have no idea on the georgia thing. I only know what i was told....I made a lot of calls and was told "even if the truck is not loaded we must purchase a temporary fuel permit from every state that the truck crosses"
     
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